The good ole IRS

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The good ole IRS

Postby bigbluebazooka » October 27th, 2017, 9:01 am

Spoiler:
It took many years to resolve. But I am delighted to report that we have just obtained a resounding victory in our legal challenge to the IRS’s political targeting of conservative organizations.
In an unprecedented victorious conclusion to our four year-long legal battle against the IRS, the bureaucratic agency has just admitted in federal court that it wrongfully targeted Tea Party and conservative groups during the Obama administration because of their political viewpoints and issued an apology to our clients for doing so. In addition, the IRS is consenting to a court order that would prohibit it from ever engaging in this form of unconstitutional discrimination in the future.


In a proposed Consent Order filed with the Court yesterday, the IRS has apologized for its treatment of our clients -- 36 Tea Party and other conservative organizations from 20 states that applied for 501(c)(3) and (c)(4) tax-exempt status with the IRS between 2009 and 2012 -- during the tax-exempt determinations process. Crucially, following years of denial by the IRS and blame-shifting by IRS officials, the agency now expressly admits that its treatment of our clients was wrong.

As set forth in the proposed Order:
The IRS admits that its treatment of Plaintiffs during the tax-exempt determinations process, including screening their applications based on their names or policy positions, subjecting those applications to heightened scrutiny and inordinate delays, and demanding of some Plaintiffs’ information that TIGTA determined was unnecessary to the agency’s determination of their tax-exempt status, was wrong. For such treatment, the IRS expresses its sincere apology.
Throughout litigation of this case, we have remained committed to protecting the rights of our clients who faced unlawful and discriminatory action by the IRS.  Our objective from the very beginning has been to hold the IRS accountable for its corrupt practices.
This Consent Order represents a historic victory for our clients and sends the unequivocal message that a government agency’s targeting of conservative organizations, or any organization, on the basis of political viewpoints, will never be tolerated.
This Order will put an end, once and for all, to the abhorrent practices utilized against our clients, as the agreement includes the IRS’s express acknowledgment of – and apology for – its wrongful treatment of our clients. While this agreement is designed to prevent any such practices from occurring again, rest assured that we will remain vigilant to ensure that the IRS does not resort to such tactics in the future.
As we have previously detailed, in March of 2012 we began being contacted by literally dozens of Tea Party and conservative groups who were being harassed by the Obama IRS after submitting applications for tax-exempt status. Their tax-exempt applications were held up for years (over seven years in some cases), and they began receiving obtrusive and unconstitutional requests for donor and member information. That began a now more than five and a half year fight with the burgeoning bureaucracy at the IRS. Then on May 10, 2013, Lois Lerner, the then head of the IRS Tax Exempt Organizations Division, publicly implicated the IRS in one of the worst political targeting scandals of the century.
This is an extraordinary victory against the IRS. And it sends a powerful warning to the deep state bureaucracy that it will not be allowed to violate the Constitution in order to silence and shut down the conservative agenda.
In addition to the IRS’s admissions of and apology for its wrongful conduct, the Consent Order would specifically award Plaintiffs the following:
· A declaration by the Court that it is wrong to apply the United States tax code to any tax-exempt applicant or entity based solely on such entity’s name, any lawful positions it espouses on any issues, or its associations or perceived associations with a particular political movement, position or viewpoint;
· A declaration by the Court that any action or inaction taken by the IRS must be applied evenhandedly and not based solely on a tax-exempt applicant or entity’s name, political viewpoint, or associations or perceived associations with a particular political movement, position or viewpoint; and
· A declaration by the Court that discrimination on the basis of political viewpoint in administering the United States tax code violates fundamental First Amendment rights. Disparate treatment of taxpayers based solely on the taxpayers’ names, any lawful positions the taxpayers espouse on any issues, or the taxpayers’ associations or perceived associations with a particular political movement, position or viewpoint is unlawful.
In the Order, the IRS has also agreed that (unless expressly required by law) certain actions against the Plaintiffs– i.e. the sharing, dissemination, or other use of information unnecessarily obtained by the IRS during the determinations process (such as donor names, the names of volunteers, political affiliations of an organization’s officers, etc.) – would be unlawful. In addition, the IRS promises not to take any retaliatory action against our clients for exposing the targeting scheme.
Finally, and of crucial significance, the IRS admits it targeted conservative and Tea Party groups based on their viewpoints (i.e., “policy positions”) and that such viewpoint discrimination violates fundamental First Amendment rights. This is the first time the IRS has admitted that its targeting scheme was not just “inappropriate” – as TIGTA found – but, as our clients alleged and we have vigorously and persistently argued for years, blatantly unconstitutional.
To ensure consistency and uniformity within the agency’s operations going forward, the IRS is required, pursuant to the Order, to inform all employees within the Exempt Organizations Division, as well as the Commissioners and Deputy Commissioners within other divisions, of the Order’s terms.
This Order not only validates our clients’ allegations about their treatment at the hands of the corrupt Obama-era IRS but also provides important assurances to the American public that the agency understands its obligation to refrain from further such discriminatory conduct. As Attorney General Sessions acknowledged in this regard, “[t]here is no excuse for [the IRS’s] conduct,” as it is “without question” that the First Amendment prohibits the conduct that occurred here, i.e., subjecting American citizens to disparate treatment “based solely on their viewpoint or ideology.” Sessions further confirmed his Department’s commitment to ensuring that the “abuse of power” in which the IRS engaged here “will not be tolerated.”
It is impossible to overstate the importance of this victory. This marks the end of a years-long fight for justice in defense of the constitutional rights of our clients. This is an extraordinary victory against the IRS. And it sends a powerful warning to the deep state bureaucracy that it will not be allowed to violate the Constitution in order to silence and shut down the conservative agenda


http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/10/ ... a-era.html

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Re: The good ole IRS

Postby JdPat04 » October 27th, 2017, 10:21 am

Stopped reading halfway through.


They did illegal shit. Nobody is in trouble? They apologize and promise not to do it again?

:jerkit
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Re: The good ole IRS

Postby bigbluebazooka » October 27th, 2017, 11:56 pm

JdPat04 wrote:Stopped reading halfway through.


They did illegal shit. Nobody is in trouble? They apologize and promise not to do it again?

:jerkit

And us tax payers paid for it. :chaingun
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Re: The good ole IRS

Postby ericberry14 » October 28th, 2017, 12:24 pm

bigbluebazooka wrote:
JdPat04 wrote:Stopped reading halfway through.


They did illegal shit. Nobody is in trouble? They apologize and promise not to do it again?

:jerkit

And us tax payers paid for it. :chaingun

Don’t act like jd should be included in that “us” :dog
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Re: The good ole IRS

Postby JdPat04 » October 28th, 2017, 12:39 pm

ericberry14 wrote:
bigbluebazooka wrote:
JdPat04 wrote:Stopped reading halfway through.


They did illegal shit. Nobody is in trouble? They apologize and promise not to do it again?

:jerkit

And us tax payers paid for it. :chaingun

Don’t act like jd should be included in that “us” :dog


Paid taxes from 04-12 :wave2
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Re: The good ole IRS

Postby ericberry14 » October 28th, 2017, 1:04 pm

JdPat04 wrote:
ericberry14 wrote:
bigbluebazooka wrote:
JdPat04 wrote:Stopped reading halfway through.


They did illegal shit. Nobody is in trouble? They apologize and promise not to do it again?

:jerkit

And us tax payers paid for it. :chaingun

Don’t act like jd should be included in that “us” :dog


Paid taxes from 04-12 :wave2

Yeah we all believe you paid hefty federal income tax. And it’s been 5 years since 2012 sooooo yeah
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Re: The good ole IRS

Postby CraigKressel » October 28th, 2017, 1:16 pm

Here is what the IRS should be.

1. Get rid of all income tax

2. Replace income tax by cutting every unneeded agency like TSA, Homeland Security, Board of education, etc. Cut all foreign aid, cut all entitlements that weren't paid into by people already. Mass firings of every federal employee that isn't carrying their weight. Rely on treasury donations, increased tariffs and implement a national sales tax of about 10%.

3. Get rid of about 80% of the IRS and make them so they audit and handle business sales tax when dealing with private citizens and businesses. Also have them audit every federal agency and military branch so that they are not wasting money and falsifying numbers. If the IRS was going after the defense department for wasting and losing money you wouldn't have shit like the trillions of dollars missing that Rumsfield spoke about.
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Re: The good ole IRS

Postby JdPat04 » October 28th, 2017, 8:47 pm

ericberry14 wrote:
JdPat04 wrote:
ericberry14 wrote:
bigbluebazooka wrote:
JdPat04 wrote:Stopped reading halfway through.


They did illegal shit. Nobody is in trouble? They apologize and promise not to do it again?

:jerkit

And us tax payers paid for it. :chaingun

Don’t act like jd should be included in that “us” :dog


Paid taxes from 04-12 :wave2

Yeah we all believe you paid hefty federal income tax. And it’s been 5 years since 2012 sooooo yeah


Move them goal posts :biglol


Doesn't matter if you believe or not. What happened, happened.
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Re: The good ole IRS

Postby ericberry14 » October 28th, 2017, 11:19 pm

Yeah. Big time contributor to society here folks
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Re: The good ole IRS

Postby JdPat04 » October 29th, 2017, 1:07 am

ericberry14 wrote:Yeah. Big time contributor to society here folks


Haven't taken anything as of yet either. :chewy
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