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Re: Give 3 reasons FSU can win and 3 reasons Miami can win.

Postby Cane_boy » October 28th, 2013, 4:35 am

FSUseminoles91 wrote:Yeah because the Miami defense is just comprised of world-beaters :ROFL

Better than that shit clemson tries to pass off as a defense.
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Re: Give 3 reasons FSU can win and 3 reasons Miami can win.

Postby Carr2Cooper » October 28th, 2013, 5:16 am

Cane_boy wrote:Im just saying blitzing is the only way we can stop Winston. Dude is going to pick us apart unless he has pressure in his face all game long.

I dont care if clemson didnt have success blitzing... there defense sucks bawls.


Winston's % is over 70% when blitzed by 5 or more people...the dude makes plays no matter how many people you bring
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Re: Give 3 reasons FSU can win and 3 reasons Miami can win.

Postby Cane_boy » October 28th, 2013, 5:21 am

Winston4Heisman wrote:
Cane_boy wrote:Im just saying blitzing is the only way we can stop Winston. Dude is going to pick us apart unless he has pressure in his face all game long.

I dont care if clemson didnt have success blitzing... there defense sucks bawls.


Winston's % is over 70% when blitzed by 5 or more people...the dude makes plays no matter how many people you bring

Might as well try to hit him then just wait for him to pick our horrible coverage apart. Outside corners are the only position on this D that even knows what coverage is. I would rather our backers and safeties be blizting instead of getting embarrassed in coverage.
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Re: Give 3 reasons FSU can win and 3 reasons Miami can win.

Postby Carr2Cooper » October 28th, 2013, 5:27 am

Cane_boy wrote:
Winston4Heisman wrote:
Cane_boy wrote:Im just saying blitzing is the only way we can stop Winston. Dude is going to pick us apart unless he has pressure in his face all game long.

I dont care if clemson didnt have success blitzing... there defense sucks bawls.


Winston's % is over 70% when blitzed by 5 or more people...the dude makes plays no matter how many people you bring

Might as well try to hit him then just wait for him to pick our horrible coverage apart. Outside corners are the only position on this D that even knows what coverage is. I would rather our backers and safeties be blizting instead of getting embarrassed in coverage.

While I agree with the idea, but the easiest way to destroy a blitz is to throw a slant or a screen
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Re: Give 3 reasons FSU can win and 3 reasons Miami can win.

Postby Cane_boy » October 28th, 2013, 5:31 am

Winston4Heisman wrote:
Cane_boy wrote:
Winston4Heisman wrote:
Cane_boy wrote:Im just saying blitzing is the only way we can stop Winston. Dude is going to pick us apart unless he has pressure in his face all game long.

I dont care if clemson didnt have success blitzing... there defense sucks bawls.


Winston's % is over 70% when blitzed by 5 or more people...the dude makes plays no matter how many people you bring

Might as well try to hit him then just wait for him to pick our horrible coverage apart. Outside corners are the only position on this D that even knows what coverage is. I would rather our backers and safeties be blizting instead of getting embarrassed in coverage.

While I agree with the idea, but the easiest way to destroy a blitz is to throw a slant or a screen

Blitz or no blitz those throws are going to destroy our D. We could drop 11 men and still get embarrassed by a screen play.
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Re: Give 3 reasons FSU can win and 3 reasons Miami can win.

Postby Carr2Cooper » October 28th, 2013, 5:50 am

Cane_boy wrote:
Winston4Heisman wrote:
Cane_boy wrote:
Winston4Heisman wrote:
Cane_boy wrote:Im just saying blitzing is the only way we can stop Winston. Dude is going to pick us apart unless he has pressure in his face all game long.

I dont care if clemson didnt have success blitzing... there defense sucks bawls.


Winston's % is over 70% when blitzed by 5 or more people...the dude makes plays no matter how many people you bring

Might as well try to hit him then just wait for him to pick our horrible coverage apart. Outside corners are the only position on this D that even knows what coverage is. I would rather our backers and safeties be blizting instead of getting embarrassed in coverage.

While I agree with the idea, but the easiest way to destroy a blitz is to throw a slant or a screen

Blitz or no blitz those throws are going to destroy our D. We could drop 11 men and still get embarrassed by a screen play.

You guys looked damn good in the 2nd half of the WF game...not so much in the 1st
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Re: Give 3 reasons FSU can win and 3 reasons Miami can win.

Postby Cane_boy » October 28th, 2013, 6:08 am

Winston4Heisman wrote:
Cane_boy wrote:
Winston4Heisman wrote:
Cane_boy wrote:
Winston4Heisman wrote:
Cane_boy wrote:Im just saying blitzing is the only way we can stop Winston. Dude is going to pick us apart unless he has pressure in his face all game long.

I dont care if clemson didnt have success blitzing... there defense sucks bawls.


Winston's % is over 70% when blitzed by 5 or more people...the dude makes plays no matter how many people you bring

Might as well try to hit him then just wait for him to pick our horrible coverage apart. Outside corners are the only position on this D that even knows what coverage is. I would rather our backers and safeties be blizting instead of getting embarrassed in coverage.

While I agree with the idea, but the easiest way to destroy a blitz is to throw a slant or a screen

Blitz or no blitz those throws are going to destroy our D. We could drop 11 men and still get embarrassed by a screen play.

You guys looked damn good in the 2nd half of the WF game...not so much in the 1st

like you said... it was the WF game. Still couldnt do much to stop the short throwing game in the second half anyways. Winston will eat that kind of Defense alive with efficiency. Only chance we have is to some how not let Winston complete basically everything he throws.
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Re: Give 3 reasons FSU can win and 3 reasons Miami can win.

Postby theSabanator20 » November 3rd, 2013, 12:47 am

theSabanator20 wrote:FSU

1. Establish run
2. Contain Duke Johnson
3. Limit Turnovers

Miami

1. Get Duke Johnson in space, run that other guy up the gut
2. Rush 4, drop everyone else back, play cover 3 man.
3. Stephen Morris has to take what is given, don't push the envelope.


If I was Miami, here is my gameplan.


Offense
- use everyone on the bench as far as RBs and TEs
- put Duke Johnson anywhere in multiple formations
- run the ball with the other back
- dont go for any big plays. Stay simple. Call plays that are designed to get 4-7 yds.
- use the TEs out wide vs CBs and run slants. Keep WRs near tackle box and run posts and corners.
- run the speed option ever so often to set up TE screens on the backside
- bleed the clock. The longer you have it, the less time there is for Jameis Winston on the field.
- run to the weak side of the Oline, and to the wide side of the field.
- or run to the strong side of the Oline, and to the small side of the field.
- keep 6 to block on every pass play


Defense

- play man on the outside, zone on the inside
- Cover 3 all day, don't let anything past the safeties
- rush 4, and only blitz on first downs.
- if blitzing, bring at least 7. 5 and 6 is not enough.
- also if blitzing, blitz 3 straight up the middle, not the outside. Keep 2 blitzers outside the tackle box.
- keep Jameis in the pocket as long as possible. More time runs off the clock, less time he has later.
- dont make him run outside
- play cover 3 with an OLB. Keep 2 safeties on the numbers, OLB between the hashes.
- crash the line vs the run. Make the inside run irrelevant. It takes longer to run outside than inside.
- use Safeties at CB in the Red Zone for outside contain, safeties are generally stronger than CBs


That's what I would do. Seems legit. I think Miami will make the game closer than everyone thinks.
Stephen Morris is the key to a Miami win. He doesn't have to throw for 300, he just needs to be efficient.
Turnovers will also play a large role.


Al Golden was listening... :twisted:
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Re: Give 3 reasons FSU can win and 3 reasons Miami can win.

Postby theSabanator20 » November 3rd, 2013, 12:48 am

Im a fucking genius
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