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aubiefifty wrote:it has been estimated more slaves were murdered than jew during those terrible times. but i would not give you a link if you paid me. but some of yall do not look it up and take some shots anyway. i love how in the succession papers that were written and signed by davis and his vice pres and severl others all signed the statement saying the war was over slavery but yall keep making billshit up. better yet go see what the flag designer said it stood for. or maybe general mosby of the south. yall have selective believing.



aTahmission wrote:I grew up in Michigan and moved to Connecticut a year or so after I graduated. The confederate flag isn’t flown as much in Connecticut as it is in Michigan, but it has always annoyed me seeing it flown in either of these northern states. Not even considering the obvious racial implications that are more contemporary, I find it hugely disrespectful to our ancestors. In Michigan, only New York had more of its boys die trying to hold the union together, and you have the audacity to plaster your pick’em up truck with the symbol of a treasonous secession movement? Nonsense.

Muck FcDisney wrote:t... by a bunch of greedy white slave owners who didn't want to pay their taxes.

Muck FcDisney wrote:aTahmission wrote:I grew up in Michigan and moved to Connecticut a year or so after I graduated. The confederate flag isn’t flown as much in Connecticut as it is in Michigan, but it has always annoyed me seeing it flown in either of these northern states. Not even considering the obvious racial implications that are more contemporary, I find it hugely disrespectful to our ancestors. In Michigan, only New York had more of its boys die trying to hold the union together, and you have the audacity to plaster your pick’em up truck with the symbol of a treasonous secession movement? Nonsense.
Hey now, the US flag is also a symbol of a treasonous secession movement... by a bunch of greedy white slave owners who didn't want to pay their taxes. And the confederate battle flag (never the official flag of the Confederacy) wasn't a widely recognized symbol of racism until those pesky "Dixiecrat" racists started using them in the 50's.
MYTH: The Confederate Battle Flag represents racism today.
FACT: The Confederate Battle Flag today finds itself in the center of much controversy and poopla going on in several states. The cry to take this flag down is unjustified. It is very important to keep in mind that the Confederate Battle Flag was simply just that. A battle flag. It was never even a National flag, so how could it have flown over a slave nation or represented slavery or racism? This myth is continued by lack of education and ignorance. Those that vilify the Confederate Battle Flag are very confused about history and have jumped upon a bandwagon with loose wheels.
http://m.snopes.com/2015/06/28/confeder ... g-history/
Yeah, that seems a little biased coming from Snopes, but I've seen worse from factcheck.org. So, whatever. :dunno

aTahmission wrote:Muck FcDisney wrote:aTahmission wrote:I grew up in Michigan and moved to Connecticut a year or so after I graduated. The confederate flag isn’t flown as much in Connecticut as it is in Michigan, but it has always annoyed me seeing it flown in either of these northern states. Not even considering the obvious racial implications that are more contemporary, I find it hugely disrespectful to our ancestors. In Michigan, only New York had more of its boys die trying to hold the union together, and you have the audacity to plaster your pick’em up truck with the symbol of a treasonous secession movement? Nonsense.
Hey now, the US flag is also a symbol of a treasonous secession movement... by a bunch of greedy white slave owners who didn't want to pay their taxes. And the confederate battle flag (never the official flag of the Confederacy) wasn't a widely recognized symbol of racism until those pesky "Dixiecrat" racists started using them in the 50's.
MYTH: The Confederate Battle Flag represents racism today.
FACT: The Confederate Battle Flag today finds itself in the center of much controversy and poopla going on in several states. The cry to take this flag down is unjustified. It is very important to keep in mind that the Confederate Battle Flag was simply just that. A battle flag. It was never even a National flag, so how could it have flown over a slave nation or represented slavery or racism? This myth is continued by lack of education and ignorance. Those that vilify the Confederate Battle Flag are very confused about history and have jumped upon a bandwagon with loose wheels.
http://m.snopes.com/2015/06/28/confeder ... g-history/
Yeah, that seems a little biased coming from Snopes, but I've seen worse from factcheck.org. So, whatever. :dunno
Nay, remember I used the qualifier “contemporary” to address its racial implications. We could discuss all day the economic impact of banning slavery in the south when it’s economy relied so heavily on it, and what that means in regards to the “state’s rights” argument, but the racial aspect I was referring to was the introduction of the flag to southern government building as a protest to federal interference during the civil rights movement in the 1960’s. I think the argument presented by snopes – a common one – Is a bit of a non sequitur and an attempt to derail the discussion.


FSUKW wrote:I go by the theory that the Confederate Flag stems from the Civil War (North versus South, not black versus white). It is interpreted differently by different people, but to force a label on it and create laws around it based on only some groups views of what it stands for is ridiculous. The South was for slavery. That does not mean that is the sole reason they stitched up a piece of fabric to fly on a pole. When I see a Confederate Flag, I think "Southern", not "Slave Trader". Some people have too much time on their hands.

aubiefifty wrote:most folks that fly one fly the other as well. they want the white race to be supreme. its why they love hitler so much.

aubiefifty wrote:most folks that fly one fly the other as well. they want the white race to be supreme. its why they love hitler so much.

ericberry14 wrote:aubiefifty wrote:most folks that fly one fly the other as well. they want the white race to be supreme. its why they love hitler so much.
I have never seen anyone flying a nazi flag. How can this be when I see confederate flags on a regular basis? Does this mean you are full of shit?


ericberry14 wrote:I'm a terrible person :( I should just :suicide2


Eye_of_Horus wrote: :trolldance

Muck FcDisney wrote:Eye_of_Horus wrote: :trolldance
Is Nayvar's mom okay with that?

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