Can Miami stop GT this year?

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Re: Can Miami stop GT this year?

Postby Beaver3332 » October 2nd, 2013, 10:55 pm

FuckESPNdotCOM wrote:
Beaver3332 wrote:
FuckESPNdotCOM wrote:I'm predicting a very narrow GT victory over Miami (which I REALLY hope doesn't happen).
Also, Ball State will beat UVA.

If I'm right, I get a cookie. If I'm not, I live with the shame that I've picked the wrong outcomes in 2 ACC games. :sadyes

You will be shamed.

Hey, my infallible ratings have GT just one spot above Miami and Ball State is way above UVA. Don't hate the playa, hate the system.

Lol your system is retarded GT has a loss I guess they got credit for beating Elon by 70 :biglol
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Re: Can Miami stop GT this year?

Postby FuckESPNdotCOM » October 2nd, 2013, 11:29 pm

Beaver3332 wrote:
FuckESPNdotCOM wrote:
Beaver3332 wrote:
FuckESPNdotCOM wrote:I'm predicting a very narrow GT victory over Miami (which I REALLY hope doesn't happen).
Also, Ball State will beat UVA.

If I'm right, I get a cookie. If I'm not, I live with the shame that I've picked the wrong outcomes in 2 ACC games. :sadyes

You will be shamed.

Hey, my infallible ratings have GT just one spot above Miami and Ball State is way above UVA. Don't hate the playa, hate the system.

Lol your system is retarded GT has a loss I guess they got credit for beating Elon by 70 :biglol

Well, my system has 1995 Nebraska as the GOAT, so it can't be that bad.
Everyone gets credit for every win and every loss. However, it wouldn't have mattered if GT scored 70 or 17 on Elon- the margin of victory is still capped at 16.
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Re: Can Miami stop GT this year?

Postby JdPat04 » October 3rd, 2013, 1:10 pm

FuckESPNdotCOM wrote:
Beaver3332 wrote:
FuckESPNdotCOM wrote:
Beaver3332 wrote:
FuckESPNdotCOM wrote:I'm predicting a very narrow GT victory over Miami (which I REALLY hope doesn't happen).
Also, Ball State will beat UVA.

If I'm right, I get a cookie. If I'm not, I live with the shame that I've picked the wrong outcomes in 2 ACC games. :sadyes

You will be shamed.

Hey, my infallible ratings have GT just one spot above Miami and Ball State is way above UVA. Don't hate the playa, hate the system.

Lol your system is retarded GT has a loss I guess they got credit for beating Elon by 70 :biglol

Well, my system has 1995 Nebraska as the GOAT, so it can't be that bad.
Everyone gets credit for every win and every loss. However, it wouldn't have mattered if GT scored 70 or 17 on Elon- the margin of victory is still capped at 16.


Which is a dumb mov cap... No coach will stop on a lead score and feel safe as I've already said. Should be 22-29 points
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Re: Can Miami stop GT this year?

Postby FuckESPNdotCOM » October 4th, 2013, 1:16 am

JdPat04 wrote:
FuckESPNdotCOM wrote:
Beaver3332 wrote:
FuckESPNdotCOM wrote:
Beaver3332 wrote:
FuckESPNdotCOM wrote:I'm predicting a very narrow GT victory over Miami (which I REALLY hope doesn't happen).
Also, Ball State will beat UVA.

If I'm right, I get a cookie. If I'm not, I live with the shame that I've picked the wrong outcomes in 2 ACC games. :sadyes

You will be shamed.

Hey, my infallible ratings have GT just one spot above Miami and Ball State is way above UVA. Don't hate the playa, hate the system.

Lol your system is retarded GT has a loss I guess they got credit for beating Elon by 70 :biglol

Well, my system has 1995 Nebraska as the GOAT, so it can't be that bad.
Everyone gets credit for every win and every loss. However, it wouldn't have mattered if GT scored 70 or 17 on Elon- the margin of victory is still capped at 16.


Which is a dumb mov cap... No coach will stop on a lead score and feel safe as I've already said. Should be 22-29 points

I believe I've stated why it's 16 before, but I'll do it again, just in case: I don't believe you prove anything by beating someone by more than 2 touchdowns. It's understood that you were the better team on the field that day. It was also a natural median between 14-17, what I consider to be a solid win with little doubt as to who was better. 20+ is in blowout territory, and I'd wager there are a lot more games with differences between 14 and 17 versus 18 and 19.

You're more than welcome to create your own rating algorithm if you disagree. :2thumbs
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Re: Can Miami stop GT this year?

Postby JdPat04 » October 4th, 2013, 3:12 pm

FuckESPNdotCOM wrote:
JdPat04 wrote:
FuckESPNdotCOM wrote:
Beaver3332 wrote:
FuckESPNdotCOM wrote:
Beaver3332 wrote:
FuckESPNdotCOM wrote:I'm predicting a very narrow GT victory over Miami (which I REALLY hope doesn't happen).
Also, Ball State will beat UVA.

If I'm right, I get a cookie. If I'm not, I live with the shame that I've picked the wrong outcomes in 2 ACC games. :sadyes

You will be shamed.

Hey, my infallible ratings have GT just one spot above Miami and Ball State is way above UVA. Don't hate the playa, hate the system.

Lol your system is retarded GT has a loss I guess they got credit for beating Elon by 70 :biglol

Well, my system has 1995 Nebraska as the GOAT, so it can't be that bad.
Everyone gets credit for every win and every loss. However, it wouldn't have mattered if GT scored 70 or 17 on Elon- the margin of victory is still capped at 16.


Which is a dumb mov cap... No coach will stop on a lead score and feel safe as I've already said. Should be 22-29 points

I believe I've stated why it's 16 before, but I'll do it again, just in case: I don't believe you prove anything by beating someone by more than 2 touchdowns. It's understood that you were the better team on the field that day. It was also a natural median between 14-17, what I consider to be a solid win with little doubt as to who was better. 20+ is in blowout territory, and I'd wager there are a lot more games with differences between 14 and 17 versus 18 and 19.

You're more than welcome to create your own rating algorithm if you disagree. :2thumbs



Dunno if you answered why just knew you didn't address my reply that it should be more than 16.


Again if you was a coach would you sit on a 16 pt lead in the 2nd or 3rd quarter or even the beginning of the 4th???

No... That's 2 TDs and 2 PTs to tie

2 TDs and a FG to beat you.

Every coach would want you to have to score hell my guess would be 22 points atleast to feel somewhere safe and that depends on the opponent.


If FSU was facing Bama you would be pissed if y'all was up 16 points at the half then went into protect mode.
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Re: Can Miami stop GT this year?

Postby FuckESPNdotCOM » October 4th, 2013, 3:52 pm

JdPat04 wrote:Dunno if you answered why just knew you didn't address my reply that it should be more than 16.


Again if you was a coach would you sit on a 16 pt lead in the 2nd or 3rd quarter or even the beginning of the 4th???

No... That's 2 TDs and 2 PTs to tie

2 TDs and a FG to beat you.

Every coach would want you to have to score hell my guess would be 22 points atleast to feel somewhere safe and that depends on the opponent.


If FSU was facing Bama you would be pissed if y'all was up 16 points at the half then went into protect mode.

I'll try to explain it a little better. I totally agree that you shouldn't go conservative if you're up by 16 at half. IMO, you should get any extra credit just because you beat someone by 17+ instead of 16. It's just my personal preference for a cutoff between quality of wins.

This also has a way of penalizing teams less for garbage time TDs. For example, Stanford is beating Oregon 55 - 24 with 2 min left in the game. Stanford has 2nd stringers in and Oregon scores 2 TDS and 2 2-pts in the last 2. Final is 55-40 That means that the MOV is cut from 31 to 15.

Now let's say that Stanford and Oregon are both 9-1 after the game. Here's the difference with my cap and your max cap of 29 depending on whether or not Oregon scores 16 in the last 2 minutes.

Stanford's results
29 * (9/10) = 26.1 rating for the game
15 * (9/10) = 13.5 rating for the game

vs

16 * (9/10) = 14.4 rating
15 * (9/10) = 13.5 rating

Oregon's results
-29 * (1 / 10) = -2.9 (because it's hard to beat good teams, losses to them don't count as much.
-15 * (1 / 10) = -1.5

vs.

-16 * (1 / 10) = -1.6
-15 * (1 / 10) = -1.5


Now while Stanford does lose a little bit of credit for allowing to scores in a prevent defense, they lose MUCH MORE with your cap. Do you think that those 2 scores at the end of the game should matter so much to how Stanford dominated them? I mean with a higher cap their win counts almost half as much as it would have. My point is, Stanford was just plain better, and that's what they should get credit for.

It's an arbitrary line, I know. But I had to draw the line somewhere, otherwise Ohio State would get
(76-0) * 1/4 = 25.25
credit for thumping 1-3 FAMU while Stanford would get
(55-24) 31 * 9/10 = 26.1
credit for thumping 9-1 Oregon.
I mean do we honestly want to say beating the crap out of FAMU is almost as good as beating the crap out of Oregon?
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Re: Can Miami stop GT this year?

Postby MIAMIDOMINATION » October 4th, 2013, 3:54 pm

FuckESPNdotCOM wrote:
Beaver3332 wrote:
FuckESPNdotCOM wrote:
Beaver3332 wrote:
FuckESPNdotCOM wrote:I'm predicting a very narrow GT victory over Miami (which I REALLY hope doesn't happen).
Also, Ball State will beat UVA.

If I'm right, I get a cookie. If I'm not, I live with the shame that I've picked the wrong outcomes in 2 ACC games. :sadyes

You will be shamed.

Hey, my infallible ratings have GT just one spot above Miami and Ball State is way above UVA. Don't hate the playa, hate the system.

Lol your system is retarded GT has a loss I guess they got credit for beating Elon by 70 :biglol

Well, my system has 1995 Nebraska as the GOAT, so it can't be that bad.
Everyone gets credit for every win and every loss. However, it wouldn't have mattered if GT scored 70 or 17 on Elon- the margin of victory is still capped at 16.

2001 miami would skullfuck 1995 nebraska
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Re: Can Miami stop GT this year?

Postby FuckESPNdotCOM » October 4th, 2013, 4:09 pm

MIAMIDOMINATION wrote:2001 miami would skullfuck 1995 nebraska

2011 Bama is the highest rated BCS champion. They're around 8.1 rating. 1995 Nebraska has a 8.4 rating. I don't have the files with me (they're at home), but I remember most of the BCS champ ratings to the tenth. Fucking 2008 UF was the second highest-rated BCS champion with 8.0. :banghead 2001 Miami was 7.9.
The lowest was 1998 Tennessee with a rating of 5.+

2002 Miami and UGA were rated higher than 2002 Ohio State, another 5.+ team.
2012 Oregon has the highest rating I've checked for 2012. :lol:
Note that I've only compiled historical teams that I was interested about. I plan on doing more later, but each input file is made manually by me. Not fun, but pretty interesting.
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Re: Can Miami stop GT this year?

Postby MIAMIDOMINATION » October 4th, 2013, 4:56 pm

Sorry 2001 miami is the best

and its not even close
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Re: Can Miami stop GT this year?

Postby FlatEarth » October 5th, 2013, 8:25 pm

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Re: Can Miami stop GT this year?

Postby Muck FcDisney » October 5th, 2013, 8:36 pm

Looking like UGA vs North Texas out there. Surely they'll pick it up halfway through the 3rd quarter.

Doesn't help that the QB is hurt. Even Murray would struggle to throw for 300 on one leg.
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Re: Can Miami stop GT this year?

Postby theSabanator20 » October 5th, 2013, 8:37 pm

:nuhuh Miami can't stop GT this year.
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Re: Can Miami stop GT this year?

Postby Beaver3332 » October 6th, 2013, 12:32 am

The first Half was a nightmare defensively they almost went up 24-7 but we forced a fumble, we pretty much dominated the second half if we didn't turn it over so much it would've been a rout but I'm still happy 5-0 hombre
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