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Carr2Cooper wrote:Anyone who says Mullen was Miss St coach clearly hasn't watched football for long.... Everyone knows Jackie Sherrill is
Muck FcDisney wrote:Carr2Cooper wrote:Anyone who says Mullen was Miss St coach clearly hasn't watched football for long.... Everyone knows Jackie Sherrill is
Mullen has obviously been the silent super secret coach of the Patriots for 15-20 years. :2thumbs
Carr2Cooper wrote:Anyone who says Mullen was the best Miss St coach clearly hasn't watched football for long.... Everyone knows Jackie Sherrill is
FSUKW wrote:Anyone who’s says our coaching staff has little P5 experience is not worthy of message board posting.
08GatorBait wrote:Difference? Mullen didn't have a sub 100 ranked offense and produced a first overall draft pick.
Not remotely a double standard. Mullen was far better at his previous job before UF. Your experience is very much lacking, compared to UF's it isn't remotely close.
Will he? Richt never coached at a terrible program. He started at a gold mine and failed. Mullen coached at the second worst program historically in the SEC. In the West, which during his time was the best division in football, with one of the three best dynasties of CFB history.
Little different paths. He could be. But he raised the standard at Miss State significantly. If he can win 8 games at Miss State in a loaded SEC west. He can easily win 11 at UF with an East with literally Georgia and the nobodies. We know his offense works at UF. We know his coaches can work with less talent and perform well in the SEC. The biggest question for Mullen is recruiting. He's done pretty decently so far especially when including adding two big time transfers. Not recruiting per say, but it's still convincing kids to come to you over others.
Both staff's have questions, UF just has less.
Robinson is unproven as a LB coach. He is a question mark. The rest have shown it at the Power Five level. Johnson is a QB coach who was the OC for one of the top 20 offenses in the country. We just added Larry Scott as well as TE coach. Even more experience, and proven recruiter and TE developer.
So let's just grade. I'll try to be fair about them but it's going to be somewhat biased obviously
HC - UF - Mullen is just more proven. Upside to Taggart could be more, but right now. No evidence he should be considered better as of this day.
OC - Tie - UF has Mullen calling plays, FSU has Taggart. I'd take Mullen. UF though doesn't have a true OC. So FSU wins that. So splits
DC - UF - More because no one really knows how good Harlon is since he has never been a sole cord. He could be better, Grantham does have third and Grantham tagged to him after all. But Harlon has only been a Co-Cord. He could be elite, he could be average. We shall see. Grantham did very well at Miss State though.
WR - UF
TE - UF by a large margin
Oline - FSU
Dline - Tie. Both groups best hires IMO
Secondary - FSU - UF added two younger black guys here similar to a few FSU hires for recruiting purposes.
Rb coach - Florida
QB Coach - UF
FuckESPNdotCOM wrote:08GatorBait wrote:https://www.mydaytondailynews.com/sports/college/when-comes-dan-mullen-willie-taggart-florida-beat-florida-state-coaching-search/OQxnrobEGXo7jmUfRPyCyH/
Unbiased comparison of hires...
By Will Miles of SEC Country, Gators '04 and VT '09 according to his Twitter profile. Clearly unbiased. :biglol
Muck FcDisney wrote:FuckESPNdotCOM wrote:08GatorBait wrote:https://www.mydaytondailynews.com/sports/college/when-comes-dan-mullen-willie-taggart-florida-beat-florida-state-coaching-search/OQxnrobEGXo7jmUfRPyCyH/
Unbiased comparison of hires...
By Will Miles of SEC Country, Gators '04 and VT '09 according to his Twitter profile. Clearly unbiased. :biglol
Holy shit. He went full retard! :ROFL2
FuckESPNdotCOM wrote:Muck FcDisney wrote:FuckESPNdotCOM wrote:08GatorBait wrote:https://www.mydaytondailynews.com/sports/college/when-comes-dan-mullen-willie-taggart-florida-beat-florida-state-coaching-search/OQxnrobEGXo7jmUfRPyCyH/
Unbiased comparison of hires...
By Will Miles of SEC Country, Gators '04 and VT '09 according to his Twitter profile. Clearly unbiased. :biglol
Holy shit. He went full retard! :ROFL2
Hey! It was the first time in many years you could find "Florida beat Florida State" in an article. It's not his fault he can't bother to do a 10-second background check into the author before calling it unbiased. Chip Kelly is a great hire for UF. Anyone that thinks it isn't is a dummy!
FSUKW wrote:08GatorBait wrote:Difference? Mullen didn't have a sub 100 ranked offense and produced a first overall draft pick.
Not remotely a double standard. Mullen was far better at his previous job before UF. Your experience is very much lacking, compared to UF's it isn't remotely close.
Will he? Richt never coached at a terrible program. He started at a gold mine and failed. Mullen coached at the second worst program historically in the SEC. In the West, which during his time was the best division in football, with one of the three best dynasties of CFB history.
Little different paths. He could be. But he raised the standard at Miss State significantly. If he can win 8 games at Miss State in a loaded SEC west. He can easily win 11 at UF with an East with literally Georgia and the nobodies. We know his offense works at UF. We know his coaches can work with less talent and perform well in the SEC. The biggest question for Mullen is recruiting. He's done pretty decently so far especially when including adding two big time transfers. Not recruiting per say, but it's still convincing kids to come to you over others.
Both staff's have questions, UF just has less.
Robinson is unproven as a LB coach. He is a question mark. The rest have shown it at the Power Five level. Johnson is a QB coach who was the OC for one of the top 20 offenses in the country. We just added Larry Scott as well as TE coach. Even more experience, and proven recruiter and TE developer.
So let's just grade. I'll try to be fair about them but it's going to be somewhat biased obviously
HC - UF - Mullen is just more proven. Upside to Taggart could be more, but right now. No evidence he should be considered better as of this day.
OC - Tie - UF has Mullen calling plays, FSU has Taggart. I'd take Mullen. UF though doesn't have a true OC. So FSU wins that. So splits
DC - UF - More because no one really knows how good Harlon is since he has never been a sole cord. He could be better, Grantham does have third and Grantham tagged to him after all. But Harlon has only been a Co-Cord. He could be elite, he could be average. We shall see. Grantham did very well at Miss State though.
WR - UF
TE - UF by a large margin
Oline - FSU
Dline - Tie. Both groups best hires IMO
Secondary - FSU - UF added two younger black guys here similar to a few FSU hires for recruiting purposes.
Rb coach - Florida
QB Coach - UF
You seriously need to start including "in my opinion" with your posts.
1) you are missing the entire point about Mullen prior to UF. He did not accomplish anything prior to Meyer hiring him because he was never an OC. UF was his first. Point is he was not an accomplished OC as you are trying to make out. He had Alex Smith at Utah and TIm Tebow at UF even though he was not an OC the Utah. Your trying to down play Bell's accomplishments and experience and he has more experience than Mullen did (in a harder conference than Mullen did at Utah - even though not an OC). Look how Mullen turned out. Bell is highly regarded but at the end of the day he has to learn - like Mullen did.
2) "8 wins in a loaded SEC West" - LOL So he wins his 4 shitty OOC games and generally loses to BAMA/LSU/AUBURN every year and randomly splits A&M and Ole Miss Arky. I think a lot of coaches could do that.
3) I appreciate your effort. You are making a claim and trying to back it up. Not a lot of posters do that so............ :2thumbs
08GatorBait wrote:Being at a program that bad it's impossible to build into elite status. No one has done that in CFB...in forever.
Washington State is the last I recall.
08GatorBait wrote:Bell's accomplishments? What you mean making Maryland's offense signficantly worse than before he got there? How is that an accomplishment...You want me to praise a coach for being dog shit? Are you serious right now? Bell is fucking awful.
08GatorBait wrote:Carr2Cooper wrote:Anyone who says Mullen was the best Miss St coach clearly hasn't watched football for long.... Everyone knows Jackie Sherrill is
Sherrill was inconsistent. You thinking he is better than Mullen shows you actually don't watch football. Sherrill had four good years in thirteen. HE played in a FAR weaker SEC West when LSU was down till the tail end(when Sherill started going 3-8), Alabama was down for half his tenure, Ole Miss got Eli and suddenly he sucked. West was a joke when he had his success. Before that, he was a 4-6 win coach.
Mullen is the best coach in MIss State history. Better win percentage. More bowls. SHerill won the West, going 8-5. Something impossible for Mullen to do because Saban was at Bama EVERY year Mullen was at Miss State. Mullen faced all time great Auburn, LSU, and Bama teams. He faced off against five different Heisman winners while at Miss State.
Notice no one mentions Franklin at Vandy and his records? Why? Because it's Vandy. THAT is the same level program as Miss State.
Sherrill's overall record. 75-75-2
To say he is better than Mullen only further proves your lack of football knowledge.
08GatorBait wrote:Bell's accomplishments? What you mean making Maryland's offense signficantly worse than before he got there? How is that an accomplishment...You want me to praise a coach for being dog shit? Are you serious right now? Bell is fucking awful.
08GatorBait wrote:Lot of coaches? Then why have none in the history of Miss State. There is a reason every list of top coaches have him in the top 25. Something Taggart, is not. Taggart couldn't even produce a winning record, and was close to being fired at USF his second year. He can't even recruit as well as you guys love to claim. Considering Holtz and Levitt recruited as good, he clearly isn't some recruiting mastermind. Oregon? Had a lot of kids, and will finish outside the top 10 around 17-19 right where they have been for years. Without Cristobal, he isn't an elite recruiter. .
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