'Extremely careless,' but FBI clears Hitlary of any charges

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'Extremely careless,' but FBI clears Hitlary of any charges

Postby Y4NK33 PL4N3T » July 5th, 2016, 8:09 pm

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Re: 'Extremely careless,' but FBI clears Hitlary of any char

Postby Citronauts_Knights » July 5th, 2016, 8:17 pm

Unless they rig the election too (which is quite likely) this pretty much hands the election to Trump. The 30-40% of Hillary shills would vote for her even if she was sitting at Leavenworth. It's the undecideds in the middle that were just handed to Trump. Once the establishment repugs fall in line, the election is Trumps, barring the fix.
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Re: 'Extremely careless,' but FBI clears Hitlary of any char

Postby Muck FcDisney » July 5th, 2016, 8:51 pm

2 questions:

1. By the FBI's definition, what is the difference between "gross negligence" (felony) and "extreme carelessness" (no crime)?
2. How can they not determine if the servers (we now know there were many) were hacked? Some of the hacked emails have been leaked. If the leaked emails are fake, the FBI should acknowledge this.


This will absolutely not help Hitlery, especially with this coming right after Bill got busted having a secret meeting with Loretta Lynch (the one who would have had to actually file the charges, and someone Bill HIMSELF appointed back in 1999).
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Re: 'Extremely careless,' but FBI clears Hitlary of any char

Postby Muck FcDisney » July 5th, 2016, 9:00 pm

Oh, and from the official FBI release:

"To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now."

Is this the FBI's not so subtle way of telling us...

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I wonder if #BLM will take note... :thought
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Re: 'Extremely careless,' but FBI clears Hitlary of any char

Postby SmithsAUFan » July 5th, 2016, 9:24 pm

https://foia.state.gov/searchapp/DOCUME ... 833708.pdf
http://www.archives.gov/isoo/training/s ... m-312.html For understanding it a bit more.

This is in the link above is an NDA. If you ever get a security clearance then you must sign this. Its not just a military thing.

Spoiler:
Title 18, United States Code

Sec. 793. Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information

(a) Whoever, for the purpose of obtaining information respecting the national defense with intent or reason to believe that the information is to be used to the injury of the United States, or to the advantage of any foreign nation, goes upon, enters, flies over, or otherwise obtains information concerning any vessel, aircraft, work of defense, navy yard, naval station, submarine base, fueling station, fort, battery, torpedo station, dockyard, canal, railroad, arsenal, camp, factory, mine, telegraph, telephone, wireless, or signal station, building, office, research laboratory or station or other place connected with the national defense owned or constructed, or in progress of construction by the United States or under the control of the United States, or of its officers, departments, or agencies, or within the exclusive jurisdiction of the United States, or any place in which any vessel, aircraft, arms, munitions, or other materials or instruments for use in time of war are being made, prepared, repaired, stored, or are the subject of research or development, under any contract or agreement with the United States, or any department or agency thereof, or with any person on behalf of the United States, or otherwise on behalf of the United States, or any prohibited place so designated by the President by proclamation in time of war or in case of national emergency in which anything for the use of the Army, Navy, or Air Force is being prepared or constructed or stored, information as to which prohibited place the President has determined would be prejudicial to the national defense; or

(b) Whoever, for the purpose aforesaid, and with like intent or reason to believe, copies, takes, makes, or obtains, or attempts to copy, take, make, or obtain, any sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, document, writing, or note of anything concerned with the national defense; or

(c) Whoever, for the purpose aforesaid, receives or obtains or agrees or attempts to receive or obtain from any person, or from any source whatever, document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note, of anything connected with the national defense, knowing or having reason to believe, at the time he receives or obtains, or agrees or attempts to receive or obtain it, that it has been or will be obtained, taken, made. or disposed of by any person contrary to the provisions of this chapter; or

(d) Whoever, lawfully having possession of, access to, control over, or being entrusted with any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; orv

(e) Whoever, having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or

(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer--

Shall be fined not more than $10,000 or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

(g) If two or more persons conspire to violate any of the foregoing provisions of this section, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each of the parties to such conspiracy shall be subject to the punishment provided for the offense which is the object of such conspiracy.


Fining her $10,000 won't do shit but imprisonment for 10 years would be.
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Re: 'Extremely careless,' but FBI clears Hitlary of any char

Postby bigbluebazooka » July 5th, 2016, 9:53 pm

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Re: 'Extremely careless,' but FBI clears Hitlary of any char

Postby Y4NK33 PL4N3T » July 5th, 2016, 9:59 pm

bigbluebazooka wrote:[ img ]


Wait for it.............................:popcorn
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Re: 'Extremely careless,' but FBI clears Hitlary of any char

Postby FSUKW » July 5th, 2016, 10:34 pm

Muck FcDisney wrote:Oh, and from the official FBI release:

"To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now."


Was this really said?

:facepalm
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Re: 'Extremely careless,' but FBI clears Hitlary of any char

Postby Muck FcDisney » July 5th, 2016, 11:01 pm

FSUKW wrote:
Muck FcDisney wrote:Oh, and from the official FBI release:

"To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now."


Was this really said?

:facepalm



Word for word: https://m.fbi.gov/#https://www.fbi.gov/ ... ail-system

How embarrassing. :facepalm
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Re: 'Extremely careless,' but FBI clears Hitlary of any char

Postby Muck FcDisney » July 5th, 2016, 11:03 pm

Y4NK33 PL4N3T wrote:
bigbluebazooka wrote:[ img ]


Wait for it.............................:popcorn

:ROFL2
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Re: 'Extremely careless,' but FBI clears Hitlary of any char

Postby JdPat04 » July 5th, 2016, 11:21 pm

Muck FcDisney wrote:
Y4NK33 PL4N3T wrote:
bigbluebazooka wrote:[ img ]


Wait for it.............................:popcorn

:ROFL2



We laughing for the same reason?
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Re: 'Extremely careless,' but FBI clears Hitlary of any char

Postby CraigKressel » July 5th, 2016, 11:31 pm

How is it not intentional?

She intentionally setup the server and avoided using government email platforms. That to me defines intent to avoid government security.
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Re: 'Extremely careless,' but FBI clears Hitlary of any char

Postby CraigKressel » July 5th, 2016, 11:36 pm

Y4NK33 PL4N3T wrote:
bigbluebazooka wrote:[ img ]


Wait for it.............................:popcorn



How are they scandal free? They have a shitload of scandals.

1. Benghazi coverup to preserve the election
2. IRS targeting scandal
3. Loretta Lynch Bill Clinton meeting
4. NSA spying scandal
5. ATF Fast and Furious
6. Eric Holder perjury
7. Appointing friends to positions they are unqualified for.

There is a huge list.
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Re: 'Extremely careless,' but FBI clears Hitlary of any char

Postby Citronauts_Knights » July 5th, 2016, 11:41 pm

bigbluebazooka wrote:[ img ]


Here's my favorite scandal:
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Re: 'Extremely careless,' but FBI clears Hitlary of any char

Postby Muck FcDisney » July 6th, 2016, 12:00 am

JdPat04 wrote:
Muck FcDisney wrote:
Y4NK33 PL4N3T wrote:
bigbluebazooka wrote:[ img ]


Wait for it.............................:popcorn

:ROFL2



We laughing for the same reason?


Guess not, because I have many.
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Re: 'Extremely careless,' but FBI clears Hitlary of any char

Postby Y4NK33 PL4N3T » July 6th, 2016, 1:29 am

Muck FcDisney wrote:
JdPat04 wrote:
Muck FcDisney wrote:
Y4NK33 PL4N3T wrote:
bigbluebazooka wrote:[ img ]


Wait for it.............................:popcorn

:ROFL2



We laughing for the same reason?


Guess not, because I have many.

Definitely not, bc he wasn't laughing just looking to coattail whatever reason you posted for laughing. :lol:
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Re: 'Extremely careless,' but FBI clears Hitlary of any char

Postby Muck FcDisney » July 6th, 2016, 2:42 pm

Y4NK33 PL4N3T wrote:
Muck FcDisney wrote:
JdPat04 wrote:
Muck FcDisney wrote:
Y4NK33 PL4N3T wrote:
bigbluebazooka wrote:[ img ]


Wait for it.............................:popcorn

:ROFL2



We laughing for the same reason?


Guess not, because I have many.

Definitely not, bc he wasn't laughing just looking to coattail whatever reason you posted for laughing. :lol:


Meh. that meme is not relevant to this thread anyway.

Meanwhile... Bernie supporters are PISSED! http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/05/politics/ ... index.html

:dgb :umad

:popcorn
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Re: 'Extremely careless,' but FBI clears Hitlary of any char

Postby MIAMIDOMINATION » July 6th, 2016, 2:57 pm

bigbluebazooka wrote:[ img ]

lol at the hypocrisy


obama clearly hates whites
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Re: 'Extremely careless,' but FBI clears Hitlary of any char

Postby JdPat04 » July 6th, 2016, 9:23 pm

Muck FcDisney wrote:
JdPat04 wrote:
Muck FcDisney wrote:
Y4NK33 PL4N3T wrote:
bigbluebazooka wrote:[ img ]


Wait for it.............................:popcorn

:ROFL2



We laughing for the same reason?


Guess not, because I have many.


Basically it being bullshit. Which would be several.

The racist bullshit
Him being scandal free
What's wrong with drunk when pretty much every American has been drunk?
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Re: 'Extremely careless,' but FBI clears Hitlary of any char

Postby FSUKW » July 6th, 2016, 10:30 pm

JdPat04 wrote:
Muck FcDisney wrote:
JdPat04 wrote:
Muck FcDisney wrote:
Y4NK33 PL4N3T wrote:
bigbluebazooka wrote:[ img ]


Wait for it.............................:popcorn

:ROFL2



We laughing for the same reason?


Guess not, because I have many.


Basically it being bullshit. Which would be several.

The racist bullshit
Him being scandal free
What's wrong with drunk when pretty much every American has been drunk?


:agree
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