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Conferences and Playoffs

Postby Muck FcDisney » December 5th, 2022, 5:35 pm

USC and UCLA are joining the Big 10 in 2024.
Texas and Oklahoma are joining the SEC in 2025.
Playoff expands to 12 teams in 2024.

This leaves the conferences with the following number of teams:
Big "10" - 16
SEC - 16
ACC - 14
PAC "12" - 10
Big "12" - 8

It seems like the next logical step would be for the PAC-12 and Big XII to merge, with two of the teams joining the ACC (Baylor and TCU? Oregon and Oregon St? Stanford and Cal?), creating four 16-team super conferences. This would put 4 conference champs and 8 wild cards in the playoffs. I think this is retarded, and a move in the wrong direction. I think we need 8 conferences with 8 teams each (restoring old rivalries like Pitt-PSU, Pitt-WVU, WVU-VT, Nebraska-Oklahoma, Arkansas-Texas, Notre Dame-Michigan, BYU-Utah, etc). Teams play 7 conference games (no championship games) and 5 OOC games. Each team gets 1 FCS opponent, 2 G5 opponents, and 2 P5 (now P8) opponents. Playoffs are all 8 conference champs, regardless of record, and 4 wild cards.

Or you could add ND, BYU and 6 other teams to make eight 9-team conferences.

Thoughts?
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Re: Conferences and Playoffs

Postby ericberry14 » December 5th, 2022, 5:48 pm

6 auto bids is ridiculous IMO. We want the best teams not the highest ranked team from the AAC. It’s getting to the point they should just get rid of conferences.
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Re: Conferences and Playoffs

Postby FuckESPNdotCOM » December 5th, 2022, 7:50 pm

ericberry14 wrote:It's getting to the point they should just get rid of conferences.

Yep. It's all about the Hamiltons, baby!
Here's a conference system I came up with based on mainly geography with a few rivalry considerations. I also wanted to make sure no conference had less than 8 or more than 10 teams.

Spoiler:
SOUTHEAST
Alabama
Alabama-Birmingham
Auburn
Georgia
Georgia Southern
Georgia State
Georgia Tech
Troy

SUNSHINE
Central Florida
Florida
Florida Atlantic
Florida International
Florida State
Miami(FL)
South Alabama
South Florida

CAROLINA
Appalachian State
Charlotte
Clemson
Coastal Carolina
Duke
East Carolina
South Carolina
Wake Forest

CALVADA
California
California-Los Angeles
Fresno State
Nevada
Nevada-Las Vegas
San Diego State
San Jose State
Southern Cal
Stanford

BOOTLEG
Arkansas
Arkansas State
Louisiana
Louisiana State
Louisiana Tech
Louisiana-Monroe
Southern Miss
Tulane

MISSISSIPPI RIVER
Kentucky
Louisville
Memphis
Middle Tennessee State
Mississippi
Mississippi State
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Western Kentucky

NORTH ATLANTIC
Army
Boston College
Buffalo
Connecticut
Massachusetts
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
Syracuse

MIDWEST
Ball State
Indiana
Miami(OH)
Minnesota
Notre Dame
Ohio
Purdue
Wisconsin

AMERICANA
Bowling Green
Central Michigan
Eastern Michigan
Illinois
Iowa
Iowa State
Penn State
Western Michigan

GREAT LAKES
Akron
Cincinnati
Kent State
Michigan
Michigan State
Northwestern
Ohio State
Toledo

SOUTHWEST
Arizona
Arizona State
New Mexico
New Mexico State
North Texas
Texas State
Texas-El Paso
Tulsa

RED RIVER
Baylor
Houston
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Rice
Southern Methodist
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Christian

CAPITOL
James Madison
Liberty
Marshall
Maryland
Navy
Old Dominion
Temple
Virginia
Virginia Tech
West Virginia

NORTHWEST
Boise State
Brigham Young
Hawaii
Oregon
Oregon State
Utah
Utah State
Washington
Washington State

GREAT PLAINS
Air Force
Colorado
Colorado State
Kansas
Kansas State
Missouri
Nebraska
Texas Tech
Wyoming

It's obviously not perfect, but I prefer true regional rivalries than bullshit like Missouri playing UF every year. There are some natural OOC rivalry games, too.
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Re: Conferences and Playoffs

Postby Muck FcDisney » December 5th, 2022, 9:54 pm

ericberry14 wrote:6 auto bids is ridiculous IMO. We want the best teams not the highest ranked team from the AAC. It’s getting to the point they should just get rid of conferences.


It would be 8, and all would be current P5 teams.
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Re: Conferences and Playoffs

Postby ericberry14 » December 5th, 2022, 10:19 pm

Muck FcDisney wrote:
ericberry14 wrote:6 auto bids is ridiculous IMO. We want the best teams not the highest ranked team from the AAC. It’s getting to the point they should just get rid of conferences.


It would be 8, and all would be current P5 teams.

I was talking about how they are going to do it with what we currently have. Not your proposal. Yours is better than what we will have. What I read could have been bullshit but they are going to have 6 auto bids to conference champs
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Re: Conferences and Playoffs

Postby Muck FcDisney » December 5th, 2022, 10:21 pm

FuckESPNdotCOM wrote:
ericberry14 wrote:It's getting to the point they should just get rid of conferences.

Yep. It's all about the Hamiltons, baby!
Here's a conference system I came up with based on mainly geography with a few rivalry considerations. I also wanted to make sure no conference had less than 8 or more than 10 teams.

Spoiler:
SOUTHEAST
Alabama
Alabama-Birmingham
Auburn
Georgia
Georgia Southern
Georgia State
Georgia Tech
Troy

SUNSHINE
Central Florida
Florida
Florida Atlantic
Florida International
Florida State
Miami(FL)
South Alabama
South Florida

CAROLINA
Appalachian State
Charlotte
Clemson
Coastal Carolina
Duke
East Carolina
South Carolina
Wake Forest

CALVADA
California
California-Los Angeles
Fresno State
Nevada
Nevada-Las Vegas
San Diego State
San Jose State
Southern Cal
Stanford

BOOTLEG
Arkansas
Arkansas State
Louisiana
Louisiana State
Louisiana Tech
Louisiana-Monroe
Southern Miss
Tulane

MISSISSIPPI RIVER
Kentucky
Louisville
Memphis
Middle Tennessee State
Mississippi
Mississippi State
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Western Kentucky

NORTH ATLANTIC
Army
Boston College
Buffalo
Connecticut
Massachusetts
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
Syracuse

MIDWEST
Ball State
Indiana
Miami(OH)
Minnesota
Notre Dame
Ohio
Purdue
Wisconsin

AMERICANA
Bowling Green
Central Michigan
Eastern Michigan
Illinois
Iowa
Iowa State
Penn State
Western Michigan

GREAT LAKES
Akron
Cincinnati
Kent State
Michigan
Michigan State
Northwestern
Ohio State
Toledo

SOUTHWEST
Arizona
Arizona State
New Mexico
New Mexico State
North Texas
Texas State
Texas-El Paso
Tulsa

RED RIVER
Baylor
Houston
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Rice
Southern Methodist
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Christian

CAPITOL
James Madison
Liberty
Marshall
Maryland
Navy
Old Dominion
Temple
Virginia
Virginia Tech
West Virginia

NORTHWEST
Boise State
Brigham Young
Hawaii
Oregon
Oregon State
Utah
Utah State
Washington
Washington State

GREAT PLAINS
Air Force
Colorado
Colorado State
Kansas
Kansas State
Missouri
Nebraska
Texas Tech
Wyoming

It's obviously not perfect, but I prefer true regional rivalries than bullshit like Missouri playing UF every year. There are some natural OOC rivalry games, too.


Now do 8 conferences of 8 P5 teams. :2thumbs
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Re: Conferences and Playoffs

Postby Muck FcDisney » December 5th, 2022, 10:24 pm

ericberry14 wrote:
Muck FcDisney wrote:
ericberry14 wrote:6 auto bids is ridiculous IMO. We want the best teams not the highest ranked team from the AAC. It’s getting to the point they should just get rid of conferences.


It would be 8, and all would be current P5 teams.

I was talking about how they are going to do it with what we currently have. Not your proposal. Yours is better than what we will have. What I read could have been bullshit but they are going to have 6 auto bids to conference champs


I don't know what will happen with the PAC Whatever and Big 12 10 8 though. Could get weird.
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Re: Conferences and Playoffs

Postby FuckESPNdotCOM » December 7th, 2022, 11:03 am

Muck FcDisney wrote:Now do 8 conferences of 8 P5 teams. :2thumbs

Not right now. Maybe later, maybe not. I'm just not a fan of the current "division" among FBS teams. There shouldn't be "power" conferences. Mix it up a little.

This eliminates the repressive social construct of "P5" and "G5" and goes back to the golden era when kids played football close to home. We could do away with the utter nonsense that is big conference networks and ESPN. Regional broadcasts over the air. Sunshine Network could be brought back. That would be great.

You don't have to have this "power" conference nonsense. You just have to win. Then you could have the X highest-ranked teams in the playoffs. Alternatively, this works well with a 32-team playoff with 15 conference champs and 17 at-larges.

It's not like P5 and G5 teams have different scholarship restrictions. That's just another way the system discriminates against "lesser" schools. This way at least the "lesser" schools have a chance at getting multiple CFP bids through increased matchups with "power" teams and conference championships.
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Re: Conferences and Playoffs

Postby FuckESPNdotCOM » December 10th, 2022, 6:21 am

Muck FcDisney wrote:Now do 8 conferences of 8 P5 teams. :2thumbs

Spoiler:
SOUTHEAST
Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Florida State
Georgia
Georgia Tech
Louisiana State
Miami(FL)

EAST
Boston College
Maryland
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
Syracuse
Virginia
Virginia Tech
West Virginia

RIVER
Arkansas
Indiana
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisville
Mississippi
Mississippi State
Missouri

APPALACHIA
Clemson
Duke
North Carolina
North Carolina State
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Wake Forest

WEST
California
California-Los Angeles
Oregon
Oregon State
Southern Cal
Stanford
Washington
Washington State

CENTRAL
Brigham Young
Colorado
Iowa
Iowa State
Kansas State
Minnesota
Nebraska
Utah

LAKES
Illinois
Michigan
Michigan State
Northwestern
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Purdue
Wisconsin

DESERT
Arizona
Arizona State
Baylor
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Christian
Texas Tech

NOTE: I forgot to include UNC and NCSU in my 15 conferences post. I was largely going from memory, so feel free to point out any missing teams. :dog :fail

This one has 65 teams because of ND... also I may have forgotten another school or two. The Desert Conference has 9 teams.
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Re: Conferences and Playoffs

Postby Muck FcDisney » December 12th, 2022, 3:55 pm

FuckESPNdotCOM wrote:
Muck FcDisney wrote:Now do 8 conferences of 8 P5 teams. :2thumbs

Spoiler:
SOUTHEAST
Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Florida State
Georgia
Georgia Tech
Louisiana State
Miami(FL)

EAST
Boston College
Maryland
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
Syracuse
Virginia
Virginia Tech
West Virginia

RIVER
Arkansas
Indiana
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisville
Mississippi
Mississippi State
Missouri

APPALACHIA
Clemson
Duke
North Carolina
North Carolina State
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Wake Forest

WEST
California
California-Los Angeles
Oregon
Oregon State
Southern Cal
Stanford
Washington
Washington State

CENTRAL
Brigham Young
Colorado
Iowa
Iowa State
Kansas State
Minnesota
Nebraska
Utah

LAKES
Illinois
Michigan
Michigan State
Northwestern
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Purdue
Wisconsin

DESERT
Arizona
Arizona State
Baylor
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Christian
Texas Tech

NOTE: I forgot to include UNC and NCSU in my 15 conferences post. I was largely going from memory, so feel free to point out any missing teams. :dog :fail

This one has 65 teams because of ND... also I may have forgotten another school or two. The Desert Conference has 9 teams.


:clap

This is good! The East and River conferences suck and Indiana seems kind of out of place, but nothing is going to be perfect.
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Re: Conferences and Playoffs

Postby JdPat04 » December 12th, 2022, 6:26 pm

Muck FcDisney wrote:
FuckESPNdotCOM wrote:
Muck FcDisney wrote:Now do 8 conferences of 8 P5 teams. :2thumbs

Spoiler:
SOUTHEAST
Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Florida State
Georgia
Georgia Tech
Louisiana State
Miami(FL)

EAST
Boston College
Maryland
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
Syracuse
Virginia
Virginia Tech
West Virginia

RIVER
Arkansas
Indiana
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisville
Mississippi
Mississippi State
Missouri

APPALACHIA
Clemson
Duke
North Carolina
North Carolina State
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Wake Forest

WEST
California
California-Los Angeles
Oregon
Oregon State
Southern Cal
Stanford
Washington
Washington State

CENTRAL
Brigham Young
Colorado
Iowa
Iowa State
Kansas State
Minnesota
Nebraska
Utah

LAKES
Illinois
Michigan
Michigan State
Northwestern
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Purdue
Wisconsin

DESERT
Arizona
Arizona State
Baylor
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Christian
Texas Tech

NOTE: I forgot to include UNC and NCSU in my 15 conferences post. I was largely going from memory, so feel free to point out any missing teams. :dog :fail

This one has 65 teams because of ND... also I may have forgotten another school or two. The Desert Conference has 9 teams.


:clap

This is good! The East and River conferences suck and Indiana seems kind of out of place, but nothing is going to be perfect.



South East
Lakes
West

Those would be some tough conferences
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Re: Conferences and Playoffs

Postby FuckESPNdotCOM » December 13th, 2022, 12:17 am

JdPat04 wrote:
Muck FcDisney wrote:
FuckESPNdotCOM wrote:
Muck FcDisney wrote:Now do 8 conferences of 8 P5 teams. :2thumbs

Spoiler:
SOUTHEAST
Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Florida State
Georgia
Georgia Tech
Louisiana State
Miami(FL)

EAST
Boston College
Maryland
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
Syracuse
Virginia
Virginia Tech
West Virginia

RIVER
Arkansas
Indiana
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisville
Mississippi
Mississippi State
Missouri

APPALACHIA
Clemson
Duke
North Carolina
North Carolina State
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Wake Forest

WEST
California
California-Los Angeles
Oregon
Oregon State
Southern Cal
Stanford
Washington
Washington State

CENTRAL
Brigham Young
Colorado
Iowa
Iowa State
Kansas State
Minnesota
Nebraska
Utah

LAKES
Illinois
Michigan
Michigan State
Northwestern
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Purdue
Wisconsin

DESERT
Arizona
Arizona State
Baylor
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Christian
Texas Tech

NOTE: I forgot to include UNC and NCSU in my 15 conferences post. I was largely going from memory, so feel free to point out any missing teams. :dog :fail

This one has 65 teams because of ND... also I may have forgotten another school or two. The Desert Conference has 9 teams.


:clap

This is good! The East and River conferences suck and Indiana seems kind of out of place, but nothing is going to be perfect.



South East
Lakes
West

Those would be some tough conferences

River is the Ohio & Mississippi Rivers. Kentucky and Indiana border each other, which is weird to me.

The northeastern USA doesn't have many good CFB teams. Same in places like Wyoming and Montana (Central being vast with MN to UT). This is and the fact that Rutgers is supposedly a P5 team is why I prefer the 15-conference system.
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Re: Conferences and Playoffs

Postby FSUKW » December 14th, 2022, 12:28 am

JdPat04 wrote:
Muck FcDisney wrote:
FuckESPNdotCOM wrote:
Muck FcDisney wrote:Now do 8 conferences of 8 P5 teams. :2thumbs

Spoiler:
SOUTHEAST
Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Florida State
Georgia
Georgia Tech
Louisiana State
Miami(FL)

EAST
Boston College
Maryland
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
Syracuse
Virginia
Virginia Tech
West Virginia

RIVER
Arkansas
Indiana
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisville
Mississippi
Mississippi State
Missouri

APPALACHIA
Clemson
Duke
North Carolina
North Carolina State
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Wake Forest

WEST
California
California-Los Angeles
Oregon
Oregon State
Southern Cal
Stanford
Washington
Washington State

CENTRAL
Brigham Young
Colorado
Iowa
Iowa State
Kansas State
Minnesota
Nebraska
Utah

LAKES
Illinois
Michigan
Michigan State
Northwestern
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Purdue
Wisconsin

DESERT
Arizona
Arizona State
Baylor
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Christian
Texas Tech

NOTE: I forgot to include UNC and NCSU in my 15 conferences post. I was largely going from memory, so feel free to point out any missing teams. :dog :fail

This one has 65 teams because of ND... also I may have forgotten another school or two. The Desert Conference has 9 teams.


:clap

This is good! The East and River conferences suck and Indiana seems kind of out of place, but nothing is going to be perfect.



South East
Lakes
West

Those would be some tough conferences


That wouldn’t be fair to Miami. They’d never win a Conference Championship.

Oh wait!!

Nrver mind. You may proceed.
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Re: Conferences and Playoffs

Postby FuckESPNdotCOM » December 14th, 2022, 4:58 am

FuckESPNdotCOM wrote:
Muck FcDisney wrote:
FuckESPNdotCOM wrote:
Muck FcDisney wrote:Now do 8 conferences of 8 P5 teams. :2thumbs

Spoiler:
SOUTHEAST
Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Florida State
Georgia
Georgia Tech
Louisiana State
Miami(FL)

EAST
Boston College
Maryland
Penn State
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
Syracuse
Virginia
Virginia Tech
West Virginia

RIVER
Arkansas
Indiana
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisville
Mississippi
Mississippi State
Missouri

APPALACHIA
Clemson
Duke
North Carolina
North Carolina State
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Wake Forest

WEST
California
California-Los Angeles
Oregon
Oregon State
Southern Cal
Stanford
Washington
Washington State

CENTRAL
Brigham Young
Colorado
Iowa
Iowa State
Kansas State
Minnesota
Nebraska
Utah

LAKES
Illinois
Michigan
Michigan State
Northwestern
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Purdue
Wisconsin

DESERT
Arizona
Arizona State
Baylor
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Christian
Texas Tech

NOTE: I forgot to include UNC and NCSU in my 15 conferences post. I was largely going from memory, so feel free to point out any missing teams. :dog :fail

Added Penn State (forgot about them) to the East conference so there's at least one good school in it. So the East and Desert conferences have 9 teams each.
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Re: Conferences and Playoffs

Postby FuckESPNdotCOM » December 14th, 2022, 5:00 am

FSUKW wrote:
JdPat04 wrote: :clap

This is good! The East and River conferences suck and Indiana seems kind of out of place, but nothing is going to be perfect.



South East
Lakes
West

Those would be some tough conferences


That wouldn't be fair to Miami. They'd never win a Conference Championship.

Oh wait!!

Never mind. You may proceed.[/quote]
Poor UF will have to play FSU and M.I.A. every year! It's so unfair!
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Re: Conferences and Playoffs

Postby Muck FcDisney » December 14th, 2022, 5:52 pm

FSUKW wrote:
JdPat04 wrote:
Muck FcDisney wrote:
FuckESPNdotCOM wrote:
Muck FcDisney wrote:Now do 8 conferences of 8 P5 teams. :2thumbs

Spoiler:
SOUTHEAST
Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Florida State
Georgia
Georgia Tech
Louisiana State
Miami(FL)

EAST
Boston College
Maryland
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
Syracuse
Virginia
Virginia Tech
West Virginia

RIVER
Arkansas
Indiana
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisville
Mississippi
Mississippi State
Missouri

APPALACHIA
Clemson
Duke
North Carolina
North Carolina State
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Wake Forest

WEST
California
California-Los Angeles
Oregon
Oregon State
Southern Cal
Stanford
Washington
Washington State

CENTRAL
Brigham Young
Colorado
Iowa
Iowa State
Kansas State
Minnesota
Nebraska
Utah

LAKES
Illinois
Michigan
Michigan State
Northwestern
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Purdue
Wisconsin

DESERT
Arizona
Arizona State
Baylor
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Christian
Texas Tech

NOTE: I forgot to include UNC and NCSU in my 15 conferences post. I was largely going from memory, so feel free to point out any missing teams. :dog :fail

This one has 65 teams because of ND... also I may have forgotten another school or two. The Desert Conference has 9 teams.


:clap

This is good! The East and River conferences suck and Indiana seems kind of out of place, but nothing is going to be perfect.



South East
Lakes
West

Those would be some tough conferences


That wouldn’t be fair to Miami. They’d never win a Conference Championship.

Oh wait!!

Nrver mind. You may proceed.


:roasted
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Re: Conferences and Playoffs

Postby FuckESPNdotCOM » January 4th, 2024, 6:11 pm

Watch fucking Washington win the CFI and prove the P12 shouldn't have dissolved. The CFI Final is a toss-up at this point. Both of them looked like shit down the stretch with their starting QBs.

I'll probably root for Cheatagain because their cheating would invalidate their CFI Final win helping FSU's unofficial claim as 2023 national champs.

Fuck the SEC and the ACC. Go B1G or go home.
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