Firstly, my first post always said having sensors. Both noise and vibration.

Secondly, i said to build a footing. That's reinforced concrete. I gave a minimum depth there too. That subverts the tunneling for the most part.

Third, i have already commented on how the false positives are removed from the equation.

Fourth, i am trying to eliminate bloat. I don't believe in taxation. Having border patrol is unnecessary and their costs are astronomical and that money belongs to the people that earn it. So, this harkens back to a point i already made about maintenance.

Lastly, since you obviously never read anything i wrote based on your previous post, cameras don't stop anyone. You jave admitted as such. So, adding them to a wall does nothing but increase costs for the long run and do not eliminate the need for border security.

Who cares if people are approaching the wall. They can paint it. Piss on in. Slap it. Be angry at it. Etc. It's their getting over the border that matters.

If you want to use laser technology to show gaps in the wall or a type of montioring for someone having scaled? I can dig that as long term maintenance issues are minor and costs to the citizens are minimized.

It's like I told you in my original post that ignited this conversation. Cutting down on maintenance and costs should be the priority. Cameras having to be replaced, aligned, etc etc and all the silly stuff that is involved with them arent conducive and what they provide doesn't make up for their costs

They did the work for us ,

It’s a nice attack on the groups that virtue signal.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019 ... the-world/

Jezter13 wrote:They did the work for us ,

It’s a nice attack on the groups that virtue signal.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019 ... the-world/

I'll take any of those non-residential walls. The razor wire is a nice touch.

*with cameras

Muck FcDisney wrote:

Jezter13 wrote:They did the work for us ,

It’s a nice attack on the groups that virtue signal.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019 ... the-world/

I'll take any of those non-residential walls. The razor wire is a nice touch.

*with cameras

Moarr.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -them.html

Jezter13 wrote:

Muck FcDisney wrote:

Jezter13 wrote:They did the work for us ,

It’s a nice attack on the groups that virtue signal.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019 ... the-world/

I'll take any of those non-residential walls. The razor wire is a nice touch.

*with cameras

Moarr.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -them.html

One has to wonder how many of those miles of walls the US paid for. :toetap

Electronic dogs. :ROFL :facepalm

And like I mentioned previously, a solid reinforced concrete footing a minimum of 15’ below grade would be near impossible to dig under.

Add to that, the Monitoring sensors for vibration and noise at that point? And voila....

https://abcnews.go.com/beta-story-conta ... d=60462672

How do I know the wall will work?

Funny that these democrats care about federal workers not getting paid while just a few years ago they were telling coal and manufacturing workers that their jobs aren’t coming back.

bigbluebazooka wrote:Funny that these democrats care about federal workers not getting paid while just a few years ago they were telling coal and manufacturing workers that their jobs aren’t coming back.

Democrats, to coal/mfg workers: "(Our regulations will make sure) your job is not coming back. "
Worker: [Gets job at TSA]
Trump: [Becomes President. Jobs come back.]
Worker: [Doesn't get paid because Democrats refuse to protect citizens]
Worker: [Slavery]
Democrats:"This is Trump's fault."

It's over! :chewy

*for 3 weeks...

Muck FcDisney wrote:It's over! :chewy

*for 3 weeks...

So do we say fuck border security and move on to the next problem with this country that should of been taken care of years ago. Seems to be the norm with politicians.

bigbluebazooka wrote:

Muck FcDisney wrote:It's over! :chewy

*for 3 weeks...

So do we say fuck border security and move on to the next problem with this country that should of been taken care of years ago. Seems to be the norm with politicians.

Well, what does a president do when Congress has too many people from the "Party of No Resist" to move forward with legislation?

Trump can simply follow the precedent set by his predecessor:
“We’re not just going to be waiting for legislation in order to make sure that we’re providing Americans the kind of help they need. I’ve got a pen and I’ve got a phone." 

Or he can be a pussy.

Muck FcDisney wrote:

bigbluebazooka wrote:

Muck FcDisney wrote:It's over! :chewy

*for 3 weeks...

So do we say fuck border security and move on to the next problem with this country that should of been taken care of years ago. Seems to be the norm with politicians.

Well, what does a president do when Congress has too many people from the "Party of No Resist" to move forward with legislation?

Trump can simply follow the precedent set by his predecessor:
“We’re not just going to be waiting for legislation in order to make sure that we’re providing Americans the kind of help they need. I’ve got a pen and I’ve got a phone." 

Or he can be a pussy.

According to the media Pelosi is the winner here. Not sure what was won. Next three weeks should be interesting. Time for the dems to give us their border security plan if they have one. Or do something.

bigbluebazooka wrote:

Muck FcDisney wrote:

bigbluebazooka wrote:

Muck FcDisney wrote:It's over! :chewy

*for 3 weeks...

So do we say fuck border security and move on to the next problem with this country that should of been taken care of years ago. Seems to be the norm with politicians.

Well, what does a president do when Congress has too many people from the "Party of No Resist" to move forward with legislation?

Trump can simply follow the precedent set by his predecessor:
“We’re not just going to be waiting for legislation in order to make sure that we’re providing Americans the kind of help they need. I’ve got a pen and I’ve got a phone." 

Or he can be a pussy.

According to the media Pelosi is the winner here. Not sure what was won. Next three weeks should be interesting. Time for the dems to give us their border security plan if they have one. Or do something.

Yeah, it's kinda like declaring victory because the game went to overtime. :crazy

But dems aren't going to give Trump shit. He could propose a bill with universal healthcare, open borders, massive tax increases, and a minimum wage of $30/hr. >95% of dems would vote against it.

Muck FcDisney wrote:

bigbluebazooka wrote:

Muck FcDisney wrote:

bigbluebazooka wrote:

Muck FcDisney wrote:It's over! :chewy

*for 3 weeks...

So do we say fuck border security and move on to the next problem with this country that should of been taken care of years ago. Seems to be the norm with politicians.

Well, what does a president do when Congress has too many people from the "Party of No Resist" to move forward with legislation?

Trump can simply follow the precedent set by his predecessor:
“We’re not just going to be waiting for legislation in order to make sure that we’re providing Americans the kind of help they need. I’ve got a pen and I’ve got a phone." 

Or he can be a pussy.

According to the media Pelosi is the winner here. Not sure what was won. Next three weeks should be interesting. Time for the dems to give us their border security plan if they have one. Or do something.

Yeah, it's kinda like declaring victory because the game went to overtime. :crazy

But dems aren't going to give Trump shit. He could propose a bill with universal healthcare, open borders, massive tax increases, and a minimum wage of $30/hr. >95% of dems would vote against it.

We'll see how Trump responds from this. Better start draining the swamp because its obvious they're getting paid alot better by someone else who wants to destroy our country.