Facebook is da DEBIL!!

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Facebook is da DEBIL!!

Postby Muck FcDisney » April 6th, 2018, 2:23 pm

:shock:

Spoiler:
Facebook sent a doctor on a secret mission to ask hospitals to share patient data
-Facebook was in talks with top hospitals and other medical groups as recently as last month about a proposal to share data about the social networks of their most vulnerable patients.
-The idea was to build profiles of people that included their medical conditions, information that health systems have, as well as social and economic factors gleaned from Facebook.
-Facebook said the project is on hiatus so it can focus on "other important work, including doing a better job of protecting people's data." :ROFL2

Facebook has asked several major U.S. hospitals to share anonymized data about their patients, such as illnesses and prescription info, for a proposed research project. Facebook was intending to match it up with user data it had collected, and help the hospitals figure out which patients might need special care or treatment.

The proposal never went past the planning phases and has been put on pause after the Cambridge Analytica data leak scandal raised public concerns over how Facebook and others collect and use detailed information about Facebook users.

"This work has not progressed past the planning phase, and we have not received, shared, or analyzed anyone's data," a Facebook spokesperson told CNBC.

But as recently as last month, the company was talking to several health organizations, including Stanford Medical School and American College of Cardiology, about signing the data-sharing agreement.

While the data shared would obscure personally identifiable information, such as the patient's name, Facebook proposed using a common computer science technique called "hashing" to match individuals who existed in both sets. Facebook says the data would have been used only for research conducted by the medical community.

The project could have raised new concerns about the massive amount of data Facebook collects about its users, and how this data can be used in ways users never expected.

That issue has been in the spotlight after reports that Cambridge Analytica, a political research organization that did work for Donald Trump, improperly got ahold of detailed information about Facebook users without their permission. It then tried to use this data to target political ads to them.

Facebook said on Wednesday that as many as 87 million people's data might have been shared this way. The company has recently announced new privacy policies and controls meant to restrict the type of data it collects and shares, and how that data can be used.

Led out of Building 8
The exploratory effort to share medical-related data was led by an interventional cardiologist called Freddy Abnousi, who describes his role on LinkedIn as "leading top-secret projects." It was under the purview of Regina Dugan, the head of Facebook's "Building 8" experiment projects group, before she left in October 2017.

Facebook's pitch, according to two people who heard it and one who is familiar with the project, was to combine what a health system knows about its patients (such as: person has heart disease, is age 50, takes 2 medications and made 3 trips to the hospital this year) with what Facebook knows (such as: user is age 50, married with 3 kids, English isn't a primary language, actively engages with the community by sending a lot of messages).

The project would then figure out if this combined information could improve patient care, initially with a focus on cardiovascular health. For instance, if Facebook could determine that an elderly patient doesn't have many nearby close friends or much community support, the health system might decide to send over a nurse to check in after a major surgery.

The people declined to be named as they were asked to sign confidentiality agreements.

Facebook provided a quote from Cathleen Gates, the interim CEO of the American College of Cardiology, explaining the possible benefits of the plan:

"For the first time in history, people are sharing information about themselves online in ways that may help determine how to improve their health. As part of its mission to transform cardiovascular care and improve heart health, the American College of Cardiology has been engaged in discussions with Facebook around the use of anonymized Facebook data, coupled with anonymized ACC data, to further scientific research on the ways social media can aid in the prevention and treatment of heart disease—the #1 cause of death in the world. This partnership is in the very early phases as we work on both sides to ensure privacy, transparency and scientific rigor. No data has been shared between any parties."

Health systems are notoriously careful about sharing patient health information, in part because of state and federal patient privacy laws that are designed to ensure that people's sensitive medical information doesn't end up in the wrong hands.

To address these privacy laws and concerns, Facebook proposed to obscure personally identifiable information, such as names, in the data being shared by both sides.

However, the company proposed using a common cryptographic technique called hashing to match individuals who were in both data sets. That way, both parties would be able to tell when a specific set of Facebook data matched up with a specific set of patient data.

The issue of patient consent did not come up in the early discussions, one of the people said. Critics have attacked Facebook in the past for doing research on users without their permission. Notably, in 2014, Facebook manipulated hundreds of thousands of people's news feeds to study whether certain types of content made people happier or sadder. Facebook later apologized for the study.

Health policy experts say that this health initiative would be problematic if Facebook did not think through the privacy implications.

"Consumers wouldn't have assumed their data would be used in this way," said Aneesh Chopra, president of a health software company specializing in patient data called CareJourney and the former White House chief technology officer.

"If Facebook moves ahead (with its plans), I would be wary of efforts that repurpose user data without explicit consent."

When asked about the plans, Facebook provided the following statement:

"The medical industry has long understood that there are general health benefits to having a close-knit circle of family and friends. But deeper research into this link is needed to help medical professionals develop specific treatment and intervention plans that take social connection into account."

"With this in mind, last year Facebook began discussions with leading medical institutions, including the American College of Cardiology and the Stanford University School of Medicine, to explore whether scientific research using anonymized Facebook data could help the medical community advance our understanding in this area. This work has not progressed past the planning phase, and we have not received, shared, or analyzed anyone's data."

"Last month we decided that we should pause these discussions so we can focus on other important work, including doing a better job of protecting people's data and being clearer with them about how that data is used in our products and services."

Facebook has taken only tentative steps into the health sector thus far, such as its campaign to promote organ donation through the social network. It also has a growing "Facebook health" team based in New York that is pitching pharmaceutical companies to invest its ample ad budget into Facebook by targeting users who "liked" a health advocacy page, or fits a certain demographic profile.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/05/faceboo ... itals.html
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Re: Facebook is da DEBIL!!

Postby Muck FcDisney » April 6th, 2018, 4:50 pm

TL; DR

Zuck knows about your Valtrex prescription. :twisted:
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Re: Facebook is da DEBIL!!

Postby JdPat04 » April 6th, 2018, 5:08 pm

While yes they are fucked up, wouldn't the hospitals be more wrong here?

We all know what Facebook and those types of companies want to do and are doing. Shouldn't the hospitals be telling them to fuck off?
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Re: Facebook is da DEBIL!!

Postby Muck FcDisney » April 6th, 2018, 5:55 pm

JdPat04 wrote:While yes they are fucked up, wouldn't the hospitals be more wrong here?

We all know what Facebook and those types of companies want to do and are doing. Shouldn't the hospitals be telling them to fuck off?


Facebook: give us all your info!
Hospital employee: I don't think that's ethical.
Facebook: your wife and family won't think it's ethical when we tell them all the things you've done and said.
Hospital employee: :surrender
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Re: Facebook is da DEBIL!!

Postby JdPat04 » April 6th, 2018, 6:58 pm

Muck FcDisney wrote:
JdPat04 wrote:While yes they are fucked up, wouldn't the hospitals be more wrong here?

We all know what Facebook and those types of companies want to do and are doing. Shouldn't the hospitals be telling them to fuck off?


Facebook: give us all your info!
Hospital employee: I don't think that's ethical.
Facebook: your wife and family won't think it's ethical when we tell them all the things you've done and said.
Hospital employee: :surrender


:thought

Don't spread yo shady shit on Facebook!

But for real fuck them all
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Re: Facebook is da DEBIL!!

Postby CraigKressel » April 6th, 2018, 8:57 pm

Let me show you guys how dirty facebook is.

You know how they censor anyone that is right wing like breitbart, mark dice, alex jones etc.

I am a web developer and have like 1000 websites that I maintain, this guy hacked like 30 of my websites the other day and I was in a hacking war with him basically. He posts the sites on facebook that he hacks to spread the malware when people click on the links. I reported him a couple days ago and he is still not banned, his account has been around for a while so I am sure he has been reported numerous times and why does FB not have bots and moderators looking for shit like this? He is doing illegal activity using facebook to do it and they just let it go. But they do stuff like shadow ban you if you are a conservative, steal all of your data, share it with advertisers, then ban any right leaning news.

https://www.facebook.com/ajobekkhnpola1/


All this platform is about is making money and spreading liberal politics, it is a fucking joke.
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Re: Facebook is da DEBIL!!

Postby CraigKressel » April 8th, 2018, 3:22 am

Its ok if you run a hacker group on there and post websites that you hacked and share links that spread viruses but if you are conservative commentators you are a threat to the community.

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/facebo ... community/
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Re: Facebook is da DEBIL!!

Postby CraigKressel » April 8th, 2018, 1:22 pm

To give you guys an update facebook did not ban these hacker pieces of shit and responded to my report as them doing nothing wrong. They are using facebook to conduct illegal activity and it is nothing wrong yet conservative news and speakers are getting banned.
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Re: Facebook is da DEBIL!!

Postby bigbluebazooka » April 8th, 2018, 9:05 pm

CraigKressel wrote:To give you guys an update facebook did not ban these hacker pieces of shit and responded to my report as them doing nothing wrong. They are using facebook to conduct illegal activity and it is nothing wrong yet conservative news and speakers are getting banned.

Looks like he gets to explain himself to Congress this week. Not sure what good that’s going to do.
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Re: Facebook is da DEBIL!!

Postby CraigKressel » April 9th, 2018, 1:06 am

bigbluebazooka wrote:
CraigKressel wrote:To give you guys an update facebook did not ban these hacker pieces of shit and responded to my report as them doing nothing wrong. They are using facebook to conduct illegal activity and it is nothing wrong yet conservative news and speakers are getting banned.

Looks like he gets to explain himself to Congress this week. Not sure what good that’s going to do.


He will just lie like he did when he said this shit wasn't happening to begin with.
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Re: Facebook is da DEBIL!!

Postby Muck FcDisney » April 9th, 2018, 2:24 pm

bigbluebazooka wrote:
CraigKressel wrote:To give you guys an update facebook did not ban these hacker pieces of shit and responded to my report as them doing nothing wrong. They are using facebook to conduct illegal activity and it is nothing wrong yet conservative news and speakers are getting banned.

Looks like he gets to explain himself to Congress this week. Not sure what good that’s going to do.


Facebook has donated to the campaigns of 85% of the people who will be "questioning" him.

"You keep sending the money, and we'll keep lobbing softballs in your direction. ;) "
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