Is it a scam?

[bigbluebazooka]

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Now that i've finished my first semester I think it's safe to say... FUCK COLLEGE. Now before all you of you go batshit crazy... i have a few points to make

1. Yes I have dropped out after finishing my first semester (with a 4.0 GPA). And it's one of the best choices I've ever made. Not because I am averse to learning, but actually the exact opposite.

2. YOU ARE BEING SCAMMED. You may not see it today or tomorrow, but you will see it some day. Heck you may have already seen it if you've been through college. You are being put thousands into debt to learn things you will never even use. Wasting 4 years of your life to be stuck at a paycheck that grows slower than the rate of inflation. Paying $200 for a $6 textbook. Being taught by teacher's who have never done what they're teaching. Average income has increased 5x over the last 40 years while cost of college has increased 18x. You're spending thousands of dollars to learn information you won't ever even use just to get a piece of paper. I once even had an engineer tell me "I learned more in my first 30 days working than in my 5 years of college." What does that tell you about this system? There are about a million more ways you're being scammed into this.

3. Why are Colleges are REQUIRING people to spend money on 2 years of gen. ed. courses to learn about the quadratic formula (and other shit they will never use) Besides that, wasn't that what elementary, middle, and high school were for? (Money grab much?)

4. Gosh there are so many more reasons I could add, but just let us know if you disagree or have reasons to add and send this to your friends. Let's just talk about it.

Update: This post was 1 year ago and this Month I made more working for myself than I would have if I had graduated in my intended Engineering Major 3.5 years from now. — at Kansas State University.

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[FSUKW]

LOL at (with 4.0) after 1st semester. Give this liberal, idiot, pointing out the obvious douche bag a ribbon.

There is definitely a rally in his future.

[FuckESPNdotCOM]

You dropped out for the same reason every other Engineering major dropped out: you couldn't handle college and/or the Engineering major.

[bigbluebazooka]

LOL at (with 4.0) after 1st semester. Give this liberal, idiot, pointing out the obvious douche bag a ribbon.

There is definitely a rally in his future.

I would like to hear this dudes story how he's making more money now than in 3.5 years. But i do believe there is a lot of wasted money going to colleges for useless courses.

[Muck FcDisney]

It's only a scam if you make it a scam. Choose a shit major or dick around and not learn anything... yeah, you're not getting anything for your money.

I do agree that core course requirements are shit, and that college costs more than it should. Lots of grants available though.

[CraigKressel]

Yep it is a scam and here is how you fix it. I am self taught in my profession and I know way more than people I knew that had degrees in it.

Picture the car industry if the government gave high interest loans and grants to anyone that wanted a car. The prices of cars would skyrocket because everyone would be buying a new car.

1. Get rid of all financial aid

2. Get rid of federal grant money for all the stupid bullshit like studies on why men get erections in the morning or how Monkeys behave on cocaine.

3. Bring back vocational schools and reduce requirements for degrees in professions. Why do you need a law degree to be a lawyer, why can't you just pass the bar examine by studying on your own, sit in court rooms to watch for a certain amount of time and learn as an apprentice / intern?

4. Instead of using all that federal money for grants, loans, etc. Take some of that money and create a free online college and a ton of free resources and certification examines. Just contract existing colleges and online colleges to create sections of it and make it free to anyone. If you fail then you have to pay for it, put a ton of free pdf books and courses on there kind of like Lynda.com, cbtnuggets.com and ed2go.com. Just take the 10 or 15 hottest jobs every 3 years and create a degree program for each one.

All these things would dramatically reduce the cost of education through competition.

[FSUKW]

Lets see where that tard is in 10 years. If making $50k a year is your goal, don't go to college. If making $250k+ is your goal, go to college. Also lulz at complaining about being in debt. Pay in cash or plan/save for it years in advance.

Yep - if you don't go to college and expect to be wealthy, be prepared to:

1) Start a company and grow it.
2) Invent something
3) Win the lottery

[Muck FcDisney]

Lets see where that tard is in 10 years. If making $50k a year is your goal, don't go to college. If making $250k+ is your goal, go to college. Also lulz at complaining about being in debt. Pay in cash or plan/save for it years in advance.

Yep - if you don't go to college and expect to be wealthy, be prepared to:

1) Start a company and grow it.
2) Invent something
3) Win the lottery

Richest dude I know did #1. He actually has a Lear, a lamborghini, a company limo... owns like 10 companies now. Started off mowing lawns.

[FSUKW]

Lets see where that tard is in 10 years. If making $50k a year is your goal, don't go to college. If making $250k+ is your goal, go to college. Also lulz at complaining about being in debt. Pay in cash or plan/save for it years in advance.

Yep - if you don't go to college and expect to be wealthy, be prepared to:

1) Start a company and grow it.
2) Invent something
3) Win the lottery

Richest dude I know did #1. He actually has a Lear, a lamborghini, a company limo... owns like 10 companies now. Started off mowing lawns.

Yep - in my line of work, I know a lot of self made people.

There are obviously other ways to get wealthy. My neighbor did not go to college. He is a director in the engineering department for Disney Cruise Lines. He oversees the overall engineering for 4 cruise ships currently in fleet and the building of 3 more. He spent like 15 years in the merchant marines or something. Basically learned his craft at sea. He owns about 10 rental houses. All on 15 year mortgages and a few paid off. He is 45. He's worth a shit ton.

[FlatEarth]

You dropped out for the same reason every other Engineering major dropped out: you couldn't handle college and/or the Engineering major.

You don't even walk into the Engineering building your first semester in school... What are you talking about.

On a side note... I completely agree with this dork. I wasted so much time and money in school being indoctrinated by the system. Wait until this retard figures out the earth is flat. :postwhore

[FlatEarth]

Lets see where that tard is in 10 years. If making $50k a year is your goal, don't go to college. If making $250k+ is your goal, go to college. Also lulz at complaining about being in debt. Pay in cash or plan/save for it years in advance.

Literally one of the dumbest posts you've ever posted.

[Muck FcDisney]

Lets see where that tard is in 10 years. If making $50k a year is your goal, don't go to college. If making $250k+ is your goal, go to college. Also lulz at complaining about being in debt. Pay in cash or plan/save for it years in advance.

Literally one of the dumbest posts you've ever posted.

Yeah. Just be Lebron James!

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[FSUKW]

On a side note... I completely agree with this dork. I wasted so much time and money in school being indoctrinated by the system. Wait until this retard figures out the earth is flat. :postwhore

Thread is about college, focus please!

[Jezter13]

Lets see where that tard is in 10 years. If making $50k a year is your goal, don't go to college. If making $250k+ is your goal, go to college. Also lulz at complaining about being in debt. Pay in cash or plan/save for it years in advance.

Seeing as a college degree is so watered down today?

Teaching, Liberal Arts, Psych, Menial Law, and a host of other majors/classes that do not get you ready for real world life. Much less bring money. Especially over $250K.

College has become a 100% business first model that no longer gets you on the course to life outside of school. The new college idiot has no real social skills or ability to socialize. They think social networking via Fakebook is the same as having true verbal skills. Not to mention verbal ques and or understanding how to deal with humans in a team style environment.

Years ago, college became part of the Marxist pilgrimage of America to make it weaker through making everyone feel a degree ensured a spot at the table of not having to be a lower class crafter in a socialist world. Look at classes removed from public school; Home Ec, Mechanics, Shop, etc. why? Force people to think that those are bad and only those that like them are dirty and greasy. Talk about emotionally socially engineering a group. Lol.

My business degree isn’t worth shit other than being paper. My business acumen got me where I am and it is my engineering degree that has more worth but even then that could be done through a more vocational style setting as opposed to a place that receiving an “arts” degree as a minimum is required.

So, yeah, it has become a big business scam. It is for profit. No different than Trump University with the exception being accreditation and weight of Tax Backed “universities”.

Look no further than how academic economists cannot even agree on how to better an economy while those that simply understand the game have made it work for eons. Academics has created puffery for what would otherwise be those that don’t survive in a world where fittest does. Look at D.C. as the perfect example of this. D.C. doesn’t create a product nor have anything to export other than words and is somehow the richest city America. Why?

[CraigKressel]

That 250k statement is pretty ignorant. Most the people I know that are millionaires or make more than that didn't finish college.

[mrfree]

That 250k statement is pretty ignorant. Most the people I know that are millionaires or make more than that didn't finish college.

I don't think it's ignorant at all. I will bet you money that the majority of people making over $250k per year have a college degree. Sure there are plenty of exceptions, but not the majority.

20 oz makes good money tho

[CraigKressel]

That 250k statement is pretty ignorant. Most the people I know that are millionaires or make more than that didn't finish college.

I don't think it's ignorant at all. I will bet you money that the majority of people making over $250k per year have a college degree. Sure there are plenty of exceptions, but not the majority.

All of the comparisons I have ever seen do it ass backwards and never factor in the cost of going to college.

They will say something like "A 2002 Census Bureau study estimated that in 1999, the average lifetime earnings of a Bachelor’s degree holder was $2.7 million (2009 dollars), 75 percent more than that earned by high school graduates in 1999"

Well no shit college graduates earn more on average because all the lazy people and pathetic people would never bother going to college, so there is not an accurate way to compare that with a census.

[Jezter13]

Those who can? Do!

Those who cannot? Teach.

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