the colts will win the superbowl

[Jezter13]

Yeah manning did nothing like win the mvp... Oh wait. Fucking moron

Edgeriin James, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark and ONLY 29 touchdowns. Good for fourth in the NFL that year.

Winning MVP is subjective. Most people argue lebron is the best player in the league but doesn't win MVP every year.

Bit funny. 2004? His touchdowns increase by 20 and yards per attempt goes up two yards.

He goes from one TD every 20 attempts to a TD every 10 attempts.

Same team and only difference? The rule change.

Manning is garbage. Like I said, look at 1998 through 2003 then compare his numbers from 2004 on. Like two completely different people.

[Jezter13]

Athletes get better in every sport over time though. It's why sports like track and field eventually have all the records broken. Other sports are a little different though. No pitcher will ever win 500 games and we might not see any more 300 win guys but I would bet if cy young was pitching today he wouldn't be the best pitcher in baseball

Understandable so you'd truly have to take that into consideration. Same way as if you're trying to see what are the 10 best money making movies through the theatre.

Obviously all the old ones don't really have a chance becauae they were selling tickets for $3? -$5 and now they're $8-$16 you have to adjust for inflation. (However they don't take into consideration the inflation of the in the population)

We are not discussing athletics nor betterment of human physiology.

We are focusing on the fact that without the 2004 rule change these qb's would be relegated to the bench or would just be solid players.

This thing, called lineage and or a timeline, shows this.

Brees stunk before 2004. Manning was on par, with all the talent in the world, to just be flacco, Brady was always a stud.

Like I showed already about manning and Brees, pay attention to what is going on.

[Muck FcDisney]

Brady's stats improved from 2003 to 2004 as well. Not as much as some other QBs, but maybe they weren't getting the benefit of using deflated balls. :thought

[ericberry14]

Yeah manning did nothing like win the mvp... Oh wait. Fucking moron

Edgeriin James, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark and ONLY 29 touchdowns. Good for fourth in the NFL that year.

Winning MVP is subjective. Most people argue lebron is the best player in the league but doesn't win MVP every year.

Bit funny. 2004? His touchdowns increase by 20 and yards per attempt goes up two yards.

He goes from one TD every 20 attempts to a TD every 10 attempts.

Same team and only difference? The rule change.

Manning is garbage. Like I said, look at 1998 through 2003 then compare his numbers from 2004 on. Like two completely different people.

Dude you are fucking retarded. Your opinion means fucking nothing when you say dumbass shit like manning is garbage. Sorry retard
They all play by the same rules and Peyton still puts up better numbers than all of them. Brady included :sorry bitch

[JdPat04]

Athletes get better in every sport over time though. It's why sports like track and field eventually have all the records broken. Other sports are a little different though. No pitcher will ever win 500 games and we might not see any more 300 win guys but I would bet if cy young was pitching today he wouldn't be the best pitcher in baseball

Understandable so you'd truly have to take that into consideration. Same way as if you're trying to see what are the 10 best money making movies through the theatre.

Obviously all the old ones don't really have a chance becauae they were selling tickets for $3? -$5 and now they're $8-$16 you have to adjust for inflation. (However they don't take into consideration the inflation of the in the population)

We are not discussing athletics nor betterment of human physiology.

We are focusing on the fact that without the 2004 rule change these qb's would be relegated to the bench or would just be solid players.

This thing, called lineage and or a timeline, shows this.

Brees stunk before 2004. Manning was on par, with all the talent in the world, to just be flacco, Brady was always a stud.

Like I showed already about manning and Brees, pay attention to what is going on.

Oh I know that, he was talking the difference between qbs from 95-now vs 60's 70's and 80's because somebody said something about 5 or so qbs right now being atleast top 20 all time (and if you asked people to list the qbs from now it would probably be more) then I said people are biased of their own era of qbs because they forget about how good the older qbs were.

I would guess 7 qbs from now people would say were top 20 but when you have them a list of all time greats it would change

[Jezter13]

Yeah manning did nothing like win the mvp... Oh wait. Fucking moron

Edgeriin James, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark and ONLY 29 touchdowns. Good for fourth in the NFL that year.

Winning MVP is subjective. Most people argue lebron is the best player in the league but doesn't win MVP every year.

Bit funny. 2004? His touchdowns increase by 20 and yards per attempt goes up two yards.

He goes from one TD every 20 attempts to a TD every 10 attempts.

Same team and only difference? The rule change.

Manning is garbage. Like I said, look at 1998 through 2003 then compare his numbers from 2004 on. Like two completely different people.

Dude you are fucking retarded. Your opinion means fucking nothing when you say dumbass shit like manning is garbage. Sorry retard
They all play by the same rules and Peyton still puts up better numbers than all of them. Brady included :sorry bitch

yes, you are a sorry bitch.

he puts up the numbers because his team had hall of fame offensive talent surrounding him at all times. even tebow won a playoff game throwing to Decker and Thomas.

i will supply a better breakdown later. but something tells me you won't comprehend it.

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

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[MIAMIDOMINATION]

Yeah manning did nothing like win the mvp... Oh wait. Fucking moron

Edgeriin James, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark and ONLY 29 touchdowns. Good for fourth in the NFL that year.

Winning MVP is subjective. Most people argue lebron is the best player in the league but doesn't win MVP every year.

Bit funny. 2004? His touchdowns increase by 20 and yards per attempt goes up two yards.

He goes from one TD every 20 attempts to a TD every 10 attempts.

Same team and only difference? The rule change.

Manning is garbage. Like I said, look at 1998 through 2003 then compare his numbers from 2004 on. Like two completely different people.

Dude you are fucking retarded. Your opinion means fucking nothing when you say dumbass shit like manning is garbage. Sorry retard
They all play by the same rules and Peyton still puts up better numbers than all of them. Brady included :sorry bitch

yes, you are a sorry bitch.

he puts up the numbers because his team had hall of fame offensive talent surrounding him at all times. even tebow won a playoff game throwing to Decker and Thomas.

i will supply a better breakdown later. but something tells me you won't comprehend it.

Jez :owned EB

[frazier9495]

Everyone minus Eb can agree that Big Ben has been the best QB since he entered the league though, right :yes

[ericberry14]

Yeah manning did nothing like win the mvp... Oh wait. Fucking moron

Edgeriin James, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark and ONLY 29 touchdowns. Good for fourth in the NFL that year.

Winning MVP is subjective. Most people argue lebron is the best player in the league but doesn't win MVP every year.

Bit funny. 2004? His touchdowns increase by 20 and yards per attempt goes up two yards.

He goes from one TD every 20 attempts to a TD every 10 attempts.

Same team and only difference? The rule change.

Manning is garbage. Like I said, look at 1998 through 2003 then compare his numbers from 2004 on. Like two completely different people.

Dude you are fucking retarded. Your opinion means fucking nothing when you say dumbass shit like manning is garbage. Sorry retard
They all play by the same rules and Peyton still puts up better numbers than all of them. Brady included :sorry bitch

yes, you are a sorry bitch.

he puts up the numbers because his team had hall of fame offensive talent surrounding him at all times. even tebow won a playoff game throwing to Decker and Thomas.

i will supply a better breakdown later. but something tells me you won't comprehend it.

Jez :owned EB

Not even close. He's just delusional. As are you which is further proof since you believe the shit you just posted

[Jezter13]

Yeah manning did nothing like win the mvp... Oh wait. Fucking moron

Edgeriin James, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark and ONLY 29 touchdowns. Good for fourth in the NFL that year.

Winning MVP is subjective. Most people argue lebron is the best player in the league but doesn't win MVP every year.

Bit funny. 2004? His touchdowns increase by 20 and yards per attempt goes up two yards.

He goes from one TD every 20 attempts to a TD every 10 attempts.

Same team and only difference? The rule change.

Manning is garbage. Like I said, look at 1998 through 2003 then compare his numbers from 2004 on. Like two completely different people.

Dude you are fucking retarded. Your opinion means fucking nothing when you say dumbass shit like manning is garbage. Sorry retard
They all play by the same rules and Peyton still puts up better numbers than all of them. Brady included :sorry bitch

yes, you are a sorry bitch.

he puts up the numbers because his team had hall of fame offensive talent surrounding him at all times. even tebow won a playoff game throwing to Decker and Thomas.

i will supply a better breakdown later. but something tells me you won't comprehend it.

Jez :owned EB

Not even close. He's just delusional. As are you which is further proof since you believe the shit you just posted

interesting comparison.

Marino = 1/20
Elway = 1/24
Favre = 1/20

those are the TD's per attempt in their careers. i didn't go back and readjust Favre's only because it was the end of his career and the difference would be minimal. Now, below, are what a lot consider the premiere passers of this current generation and they played during both eras, as in the pre and post manning rules.

Manning = 1/16 and 1/20
Brees = 1/18 and 1/31
Brady = 1/17 and 1/22

can you guess which set was which?

[ericberry14]

so you're saying that manning is the best? pre and post 2004. Manning would have continued to improve without the rules change too. But congrats on being retarded :4thumbs

[JdPat04]

so you're saying that manning is the best? pre and post 2004. Manning would have continued to improve without the rules change too. But congrats on being retarded :4thumbs

:nuhuh

Unless manning plays until Farves age and keeps it at. 1/20 and that's even without the manning rule

[ericberry14]

so you're saying that manning is the best? pre and post 2004. Manning would have continued to improve without the rules change too. But congrats on being retarded :4thumbs

:nuhuh

Unless manning plays until Farves age and keeps it at. 1/20 and that's even without the manning rule

:stfu

[Jezter13]

so you're saying that manning is the best? pre and post 2004. Manning would have continued to improve without the rules change too. But congrats on being retarded :4thumbs

And you see folks?!?!

No comprehension skills. At all!!!

Thanks for playing.

[ericberry14]

so you're saying that manning is the best? pre and post 2004. Manning would have continued to improve without the rules change too. But congrats on being retarded :4thumbs

And you see folks?!?!

No comprehension skills. At all!!!

Thanks for playing.

Lol @ your level of retardation.

[Jezter13]

so you're saying that manning is the best? pre and post 2004. Manning would have continued to improve without the rules change too. But congrats on being retarded :4thumbs

And you see folks?!?!

No comprehension skills. At all!!!

Thanks for playing.

Lol @ your level of retardation.

You don't really grasp it. Do you?

As in you have a hard time with conceptual thinking, don't you?

[ericberry14]

You said he was as good or better than anyone at throwing tds in his first 6 years. He continued to get better regardless of any rule change.... After the rule change... He was.... Still the best. You're right... It was easy as fuck to grasp that :facepalm

[JdPat04]

You said he was as good or better than anyone at throwing tds in his first 6 years. He continued to get better regardless of any rule change.... After the rule change... He was.... Still the best. You're right... It was easy as fuck to grasp that :facepalm

He was as good as the best* before the rule change and he improved to be better than any of his fellow qbs of his time is how I would say it.

[Jezter13]

You said he was as good or better than anyone at throwing tds in his first 6 years. He continued to get better regardless of any rule change.... After the rule change... He was.... Still the best. You're right... It was easy as fuck to grasp that :facepalm

He didn't.....

Talking to you is the equivalent of trying to explain quantum physics to a still born infant.