the colts will win the superbowl

[08GatorBait]

Luck is one of the best Qbs in the game...but none of these guys but Johnson mean anything anymore.

Being the best of a bad group doesn't make you great.

A special Olympics winner isn't competing in the real Olympics.

Pretty sure 3 of the best QB's in NFL history are on the field right now in Manning, Brady, and Brees. Don't forget Rodgers. Pretty damn strong era for QB's so I don't know wtf you are talking about honestly...kind of an idiotic statement.

[MIAMIDOMINATION]

Luck is one of the best Qbs in the game...but none of these guys but Johnson mean anything anymore.

Being the best of a bad group doesn't make you great.

A special Olympics winner isn't competing in the real Olympics.

Pretty sure 3 of the best QB's in NFL history are on the field right now in Manning, Brady, and Brees. Don't forget Rodgers. Pretty damn strong era for QB's so I don't know wtf you are talking about honestly...kind of an idiotic statement.

hes referring to luck being the best player on the colts i believe

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

Luck is one of the best Qbs in the game...but none of these guys but Johnson mean anything anymore.

Being the best of a bad group doesn't make you great.

A special Olympics winner isn't competing in the real Olympics.

:roasted

as usual, gatobatit gets destroyed

What's the "bad group" you're referencing?

Brady, Rodgers, Brees, E.Manning are all HOF Qb's and still playing, and other Qb's like P.Manning, Rivers, Romo etc are solid.

If you call the above group of Qb's a bad group you're on crack.

he means the colts team i believe

that even if luck is amazing , if he doesnt have a good defense and running game he will never be a champion

Still makes no sense, and you're a tard for agreeing with it:

Being the best of a bad group easily applies to Dan Marino, guess he wasn't great now? :crazy

[08GatorBait]

Luck is one of the best Qbs in the game...but none of these guys but Johnson mean anything anymore.

Being the best of a bad group doesn't make you great.

A special Olympics winner isn't competing in the real Olympics.

Pretty sure 3 of the best QB's in NFL history are on the field right now in Manning, Brady, and Brees. Don't forget Rodgers. Pretty damn strong era for QB's so I don't know wtf you are talking about honestly...kind of an idiotic statement.

hes referring to luck being the best player on the colts i believe

Oh...well that I agree with.

But I said he was one of the best QB's in the game, so the metaphor he used seemed to imply the QB's in football aren't that good.

[ericberry14]

Luck is one of the best Qbs in the game...but none of these guys but Johnson mean anything anymore.

Being the best of a bad group doesn't make you great.

A special Olympics winner isn't competing in the real Olympics.

:roasted

as usual, gatobatit gets destroyed

What's the "bad group" you're referencing?

Brady, Rodgers, Brees, E.Manning are all HOF Qb's and still playing, and other Qb's like P.Manning, Rivers, Romo etc are solid.

If you call the above group of Qb's a bad group you're on crack.

:biglol @ this weak ass shit

[08GatorBait]

Yea I was obviously refering to Eli...but his brother is pretty good during the regular season like Rivers and Romo

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

Luck is one of the best Qbs in the game...but none of these guys but Johnson mean anything anymore.

Being the best of a bad group doesn't make you great.

A special Olympics winner isn't competing in the real Olympics.

:roasted

as usual, gatobatit gets destroyed

What's the "bad group" you're referencing?

Brady, Rodgers, Brees, E.Manning are all HOF Qb's and still playing, and other Qb's like P.Manning, Rivers, Romo etc are solid.

If you call the above group of Qb's a bad group you're on crack.

:biglol @ this weak ass shit

:dog

[JdPat04]

Luck is one of the best Qbs in the game...but none of these guys but Johnson mean anything anymore.

Being the best of a bad group doesn't make you great.

A special Olympics winner isn't competing in the real Olympics.

:roasted

as usual, gatobatit gets destroyed

What's the "bad group" you're referencing?

Brady, Rodgers, Brees, E.Manning are all HOF Qb's and still playing, and other Qb's like P.Manning, Rivers, Romo etc are solid.

If you call the above group of Qb's a bad group you're on crack.

he means the colts team i believe

that even if luck is amazing , if he doesnt have a good defense and running game he will never be a champion

Still makes no sense, and you're a tard for agreeing with it:

Being the best of a bad group easily applies to Dan Marino, guess he wasn't great now? :crazy

I think he is referencing Johnson and the rest of the WR's

OR

Andre Johnson and the other 2 in the OP since they were the Original talk

Andre johnson

Phil dorsett

Frank gore

[Jezter13]

No.

Luck, Brees, Both Mannings, etc. They are not great they play in a time where playing qb is easy.

The 2004 "Manning Rule" literally changed the life of these people.

Look at manning from his first season through 2003 and he was just another guy.

Brees? The chargers drafted rivers to replace brees because he stunk.

The fact the majority of the new guys today all came up through without having to be accurate and it shows.

Brady, on the other hand, has been great post and pre 2004

If anyone here really thinks watching qbs play today equates to greatness you didn't watch real football

[ericberry14]

you are fucking retarded

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

So Brady is great but nobody else is?

Brady is accurate but nobody else is?

Okay.

:crazy

[08GatorBait]

No.

Luck, Brees, Both Mannings, etc. They are not great they play in a time where playing qb is easy.

The 2004 "Manning Rule" literally changed the life of these people.

Look at manning from his first season through 2003 and he was just another guy.

Brees? The chargers drafted rivers to replace brees because he stunk.

The fact the majority of the new guys today all came up through without having to be accurate and it shows.

Brady, on the other hand, has been great post and are 2004

If anyone here really thinks watching qbs play today equates to greatness you didn't watch real football

QB play is easier...but to say Manning, Brady, Rodgers, or Brees aren't some of the top 20 QBs in NFL history is insane. Brady is certainly top five after his fourth SB ring there is no arguing that. Rodgers is insane and has no help in Green Bay with their average defense. Brees is on the decline, but the Chargers had a terrible group around him before being traded and no QB can be good without some help(except Brady...who makes everyone better).

[ericberry14]

Manning is goat shit stains

[JdPat04]

No.

Luck, Brees, Both Mannings, etc. They are not great they play in a time where playing qb is easy.

The 2004 "Manning Rule" literally changed the life of these people.

Look at manning from his first season through 2003 and he was just another guy.

Brees? The chargers drafted rivers to replace brees because he stunk.

The fact the majority of the new guys today all came up through without having to be accurate and it shows.

Brady, on the other hand, has been great post and are 2004

If anyone here really thinks watching qbs play today equates to greatness you didn't watch real football

QB play is easier...but to say Manning, Brady, Rodgers, or Brees aren't some of the top 20 QBs in NFL history is insane. Brady is certainly top five after his fourth SB ring there is no arguing that. Rodgers is insane and has no help in Green Bay with their average defense. Brees is on the decline, but the Chargers had a terrible group around him before being traded and no QB can be good without some help(except Brady...who makes everyone better).

I think if you had people list qbs they would try and put 7-10 from today in top 20 all time which is total horseshit

So yeah I believe they are overrated because people forget about what the others before then did, and how they did it

[ericberry14]

Athletes get better in every sport over time though. It's why sports like track and field eventually have all the records broken. Other sports are a little different though. No pitcher will ever win 500 games and we might not see any more 300 win guys but I would bet if cy young was pitching today he wouldn't be the best pitcher in baseball

[gatrnation1]

Sorry bro, read the title, skipped the posts and went straight to reality. The colts won't even sniff the championship. :justsayin

[Jezter13]

No.

Luck, Brees, Both Mannings, etc. They are not great they play in a time where playing qb is easy.

The 2004 "Manning Rule" literally changed the life of these people.

Look at manning from his first season through 2003 and he was just another guy.

Brees? The chargers drafted rivers to replace brees because he stunk.

The fact the majority of the new guys today all came up through without having to be accurate and it shows.

Brady, on the other hand, has been great post and are 2004

If anyone here really thinks watching qbs play today equates to greatness you didn't watch real football

QB play is easier...but to say Manning, Brady, Rodgers, or Brees aren't some of the top 20 QBs in NFL history is insane. Brady is certainly top five after his fourth SB ring there is no arguing that. Rodgers is insane and has no help in Green Bay with their average defense. Brees is on the decline, but the Chargers had a terrible group around him before being traded and no QB can be good without some help(except Brady...who makes everyone better).

Rodgers is doing nothing great. And if you think his offense has no weapons you, again, haven't watched the game. He inherited a team that went 13-3 and to the NFC title game the year before he started. He inherited Driver, Jennings and James in their primes. They drafted Nelson and a plethora of talented players to keep the system alive. Their defense has been good and bad but do not make it out that Rodgers is awesome. He plays reckless and gets away with I because you can't clobber WR's anymore.

Again, see when brees got drafted. Notice when he became a good player. 2004. Same year of the manning rule. Same year manning eclipsed the 30 TD mark for only the second time in eight years. The same coincidence that made his interceptions drop by near 100%. Pretty impressive huh?

When looking at the game as and the throw it is easy to see who can and would be great prior to 2004.

The few we can definitely compare are Brady, Bree's, and manning. Two of the three never did or won shit prior to 2004. The other? Has remained steady and constant all the way through with the exception of the one year the pats got him some talent, Moss, and we saw what he was capable of doing with that.

Today's NFL is garbage. Goodell keeps screwing it up. The manning rule really made this league bad.

[MIAMIDOMINATION]

The colts have too much miami awesomeness to fail

[ericberry14]

Yeah manning did nothing like win the mvp... Oh wait. Fucking moron

[JdPat04]

Athletes get better in every sport over time though. It's why sports like track and field eventually have all the records broken. Other sports are a little different though. No pitcher will ever win 500 games and we might not see any more 300 win guys but I would bet if cy young was pitching today he wouldn't be the best pitcher in baseball

Understandable so you'd truly have to take that into consideration. Same way as if you're trying to see what are the 10 best money making movies through the theatre.

Obviously all the old ones don't really have a chance becauae they were selling tickets for $3? -$5 and now they're $8-$16 you have to adjust for inflation. (However they don't take into consideration the inflation of the in the population)