Compare boxing today versus boxing 20 to 25 years ago?

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Compare boxing today versus boxing 20 to 25 years ago?

Postby FSUKW » May 3rd, 2015, 3:22 pm

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Re: Compare boxing today versus boxing 20 to 25 years ago?

Postby FSUKW » May 3rd, 2015, 3:25 pm

ESPN just said Floyd Mayweather got 120 million for the win and Manny Pacquiano got 80 million for the loss. They then went on to say Pacquiano only landed 19% of his punches.... :facepalm
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Re: Compare boxing today versus boxing 20 to 25 years ago?

Postby Y4NK33 PL4N3T » May 3rd, 2015, 3:37 pm

I read a great post about this which I totally agree with:

"I watch a ton of boxing and have for many years and congrats Mayweather, now hurry up and get that record and retire and take your defensive boxing with you. Your dad couldn't even fire you up to do anything more than you've always done...your dad understood the importance of the fight but you are a turtle boxer (a master no doubt) and couldn't make it a Sugar Ray Leonard-Duran fight or the other greats. You are a master at defense and very smart boxer, arguable the best at that, yes but when you retire you won't be in the masses' memory as a great...your name will be brought up when talking about defense and your undefeated record.

That one fight could have done a lot for boxing to help it but I think it hurt it. Casuals and new people to boxing got on board for this fight and because of Mayweather's style and fear of fighting (more power to him, makes perfect boxing sense and I don't fault him) they probably said, this is boxing/fighting? He is what he is and I understand that, don't get hit and win is the basic name of the game but he will never come to mind as one of the great overall fighters.

So go Mayweather and enjoy your undefeated record and loads of cash but please go because you being a main attraction is not good for boxing. It's not his fault, he is what he is, it's boxing fault for not having enough boxers that can carry boxing on their shoulders like in the past, I'm looking at you heavy weight division. "
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Re: Compare boxing today versus boxing 20 to 25 years ago?

Postby FSUKW » May 3rd, 2015, 3:39 pm

Y4NK33 PL4N3T wrote:I read a great post about this which I totally agree with:

"I watch a ton of boxing and have for many years and congrats Mayweather, now hurry up and get that record and retire and take your defensive boxing with you. Your dad couldn't even fire you up to do anything more than you've always done...your dad understood the importance of the fight but you are a turtle boxer (a master no doubt) and couldn't make it a Sugar Ray Leonard-Duran fight or the other greats. You are a master at defense and very smart boxer, arguable the best at that, yes but when you retire you won't be in the masses' memory as a great...your name will be brought up when talking about defense and your undefeated record.

That one fight could have done a lot for boxing to help it but I think it hurt it. Casuals and new people to boxing got on board for this fight and because of Mayweather's style and fear of fighting (more power to him, makes perfect boxing sense and I don't fault him) they probably said, this is boxing/fighting? He is what he is and I understand that, don't get hit and win is the basic name of the game but he will never come to mind as one of the great overall fighters.

So go Mayweather and enjoy your undefeated record and loads of cash but please go because you being a main attraction is not good for boxing. It's not his fault, he is what he is, it's boxing fault for not having enough boxers that can carry boxing on their shoulders like in the past, I'm looking at you heavy weight division. "


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Re: Compare boxing today versus boxing 20 to 25 years ago?

Postby ericberry14 » May 3rd, 2015, 3:39 pm

FSUKW wrote:ESPN just said Floyd Mayweather got 120 million for the win and Manny Pacquiano got 80 million for the loss. They then went on to say Pacquiano only landed 19% of his punches.... :facepalm

Floyd mayweather is an artist in the ring. People want to complain about the fight but I'm pretty sure they've never seen Floyd fight. He got hit with one good punch over 12 rounds. The dude is the best if this era and maybe ever. If manny didn't fight so scared we may have seen a knockout but people still would have been upset because it would have been the wrong guy getting knocked out. Would have loved a Ricky hatton repeat performance but Floyd is a defensive counter puncher. And he's the best ever at that no doubt
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Re: Compare boxing today versus boxing 20 to 25 years ago?

Postby FSUKW » May 3rd, 2015, 3:44 pm

ericberry14 wrote:
FSUKW wrote:ESPN just said Floyd Mayweather got 120 million for the win and Manny Pacquiano got 80 million for the loss. They then went on to say Pacquiano only landed 19% of his punches.... :facepalm

Floyd mayweather is an artist in the ring. People want to complain about the fight but I'm pretty sure they've never seen Floyd fight. He got hit with one good punch over 12 rounds. The dude is the best if this era and maybe ever. If manny didn't fight so scared we may have seen a knockout but people still would have been upset because it would have been the wrong guy getting knocked out. Would have loved a Ricky hatton repeat performance but Floyd is a defensive counter puncher. And he's the best ever at that no doubt


It was a 38 year old and a 36 year old. Hard for me to tell if that was great boxing.
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Re: Compare boxing today versus boxing 20 to 25 years ago?

Postby Y4NK33 PL4N3T » May 3rd, 2015, 3:45 pm

Nobody wants to see a defensive boxer, they want to see Rocky IV Balboa vs Drago.
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Re: Compare boxing today versus boxing 20 to 25 years ago?

Postby FSUKW » May 3rd, 2015, 3:47 pm

Y4NK33 PL4N3T wrote:Nobody wants to see a defensive boxer, they want to see Rocky IV Balboa vs Drago.


Sugar Ray Leonard fought battles and tougher competition.... :yes
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Re: Compare boxing today versus boxing 20 to 25 years ago?

Postby Eye_of_Horus » May 3rd, 2015, 3:51 pm

Boxing hasn't been worth a crap for probably 10 years.


...Sugar Ray, Ray Mancini, Marvin Hagler, Roberto Duran, Larry Holmes, Tommy Hearns...and then came Tyson.


Lennox Lewis ruined Heavyweight boxing, that fucking pussy.
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Re: Compare boxing today versus boxing 20 to 25 years ago?

Postby FSUKW » May 3rd, 2015, 3:57 pm

Eye_of_Horus wrote:Boxing hasn't been worth a crap for probably 10 years.


...Sugar Ray, Ray Mancini, Marvin Hagler, Roberto Duran, Larry Holmes, Tommy Hearns...and then came Tyson.


Lennox Lewis ruined Heavyweight boxing, that fucking pussy.


:agree

Hector Camacho
Roy Jones Jr
Floyd Mayweather (daddy)
Felix Trinidad
Oscar De la Hoya
Michael Spinks

It's not so much the boxer but the depth of competition they faced.
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Re: Compare boxing today versus boxing 20 to 25 years ago?

Postby Y4NK33 PL4N3T » May 3rd, 2015, 4:03 pm

Eye_of_Horus wrote:Boxing hasn't been worth a crap for probably 10 years.


...Sugar Ray, Ray Mancini, Marvin Hagler, Roberto Duran, Larry Holmes, Tommy Hearns...and then came Tyson.


Lennox Lewis ruined Heavyweight boxing, that fucking pussy.

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Re: Compare boxing today versus boxing 20 to 25 years ago?

Postby Eye_of_Horus » May 3rd, 2015, 4:04 pm

FSUKW wrote:
Eye_of_Horus wrote:Boxing hasn't been worth a crap for probably 10 years.


...Sugar Ray, Ray Mancini, Marvin Hagler, Roberto Duran, Larry Holmes, Tommy Hearns...and then came Tyson.


Lennox Lewis ruined Heavyweight boxing, that fucking pussy.


:agree

Hector Camacho
Roy Jones Jr
Floyd Mayweather (daddy)
Felix Trinidad
Oscar De la Hoya
Michael Spinks

It's not so much the boxer but the depth of competition they faced.



Macho Camacho...totally forgot about him. I also forgot about the Spinks brothers. :2thumbs


I still haven't seen Mayweather fight, but he sounds boring. :thought
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Re: Compare boxing today versus boxing 20 to 25 years ago?

Postby ericberry14 » May 3rd, 2015, 4:08 pm

Its boring if you are a manny fan or if you just want to see a street fight. It was fucking awesome for me though :yes :rock
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Re: Compare boxing today versus boxing 20 to 25 years ago?

Postby FSUKW » May 3rd, 2015, 4:21 pm

Eye_of_Horus wrote:
FSUKW wrote:
Eye_of_Horus wrote:Boxing hasn't been worth a crap for probably 10 years.


...Sugar Ray, Ray Mancini, Marvin Hagler, Roberto Duran, Larry Holmes, Tommy Hearns...and then came Tyson.


Lennox Lewis ruined Heavyweight boxing, that fucking pussy.


:agree

Hector Camacho
Roy Jones Jr
Floyd Mayweather (daddy)
Felix Trinidad
Oscar De la Hoya
Michael Spinks

It's not so much the boxer but the depth of competition they faced.



Macho Camacho...totally forgot about him. I also forgot about the Spinks brothers. :2thumbs


I still haven't seen Mayweather fight, but he sounds boring. :thought


He's the Lebron James of today's boxing scene.
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Re: Compare boxing today versus boxing 20 to 25 years ago?

Postby Y4NK33 PL4N3T » May 3rd, 2015, 4:28 pm

FSUKW wrote:
Eye_of_Horus wrote:
FSUKW wrote:
Eye_of_Horus wrote:Boxing hasn't been worth a crap for probably 10 years.


...Sugar Ray, Ray Mancini, Marvin Hagler, Roberto Duran, Larry Holmes, Tommy Hearns...and then came Tyson.


Lennox Lewis ruined Heavyweight boxing, that fucking pussy.


:agree

Hector Camacho
Roy Jones Jr
Floyd Mayweather (daddy)
Felix Trinidad
Oscar De la Hoya
Michael Spinks

It's not so much the boxer but the depth of competition they faced.



Macho Camacho...totally forgot about him. I also forgot about the Spinks brothers. :2thumbs


I still haven't seen Mayweather fight, but he sounds boring. :thought


He's the Lebron James of today's boxing scene.

:lol:
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Re: Compare boxing today versus boxing 20 to 25 years ago?

Postby ericberry14 » May 3rd, 2015, 5:20 pm

FSUKW wrote:
Eye_of_Horus wrote:
FSUKW wrote:
Eye_of_Horus wrote:Boxing hasn't been worth a crap for probably 10 years.


...Sugar Ray, Ray Mancini, Marvin Hagler, Roberto Duran, Larry Holmes, Tommy Hearns...and then came Tyson.


Lennox Lewis ruined Heavyweight boxing, that fucking pussy.


:agree

Hector Camacho
Roy Jones Jr
Floyd Mayweather (daddy)
Felix Trinidad
Oscar De la Hoya
Michael Spinks

It's not so much the boxer but the depth of competition they faced.



Macho Camacho...totally forgot about him. I also forgot about the Spinks brothers. :2thumbs


I still haven't seen Mayweather fight, but he sounds boring. :thought


He's the Lebron James of today's boxing scene.

Lebron is undefeated?
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Re: Compare boxing today versus boxing 20 to 25 years ago?

Postby rorocanes » May 3rd, 2015, 10:38 pm

FSUKW wrote:
Eye_of_Horus wrote:
FSUKW wrote:
Eye_of_Horus wrote:Boxing hasn't been worth a crap for probably 10 years.


...Sugar Ray, Ray Mancini, Marvin Hagler, Roberto Duran, Larry Holmes, Tommy Hearns...and then came Tyson.


Lennox Lewis ruined Heavyweight boxing, that fucking pussy.


:agree

Hector Camacho
Roy Jones Jr
Floyd Mayweather (daddy)
Felix Trinidad
Oscar De la Hoya
Michael Spinks

It's not so much the boxer but the depth of competition they faced.



Macho Camacho...totally forgot about him. I also forgot about the Spinks brothers. :2thumbs


I still haven't seen Mayweather fight, but he sounds boring. :thought


He's the Lebron James of today's boxing scene.


You cant be serious!! :facepalm
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Re: Compare boxing today versus boxing 20 to 25 years ago?

Postby FSUKW » May 3rd, 2015, 10:54 pm

rorocanes wrote:
FSUKW wrote:
Eye_of_Horus wrote:
FSUKW wrote:
Eye_of_Horus wrote:Boxing hasn't been worth a crap for probably 10 years.


...Sugar Ray, Ray Mancini, Marvin Hagler, Roberto Duran, Larry Holmes, Tommy Hearns...and then came Tyson.


Lennox Lewis ruined Heavyweight boxing, that fucking pussy.


:agree

Hector Camacho
Roy Jones Jr
Floyd Mayweather (daddy)
Felix Trinidad
Oscar De la Hoya
Michael Spinks

It's not so much the boxer but the depth of competition they faced.



Macho Camacho...totally forgot about him. I also forgot about the Spinks brothers. :2thumbs


I still haven't seen Mayweather fight, but he sounds boring. :thought


He's the Lebron James of today's boxing scene.


You cant be serious!! :facepalm


Yes...

Mayweather has not faced deep competition.

Lebron never faced the likes of Barkley, Charles Oakley, Bill Lambeer, Anthony Mason, Darrel Dawkins, Mahorn, Rodman.

NBA today is pussified. Sorry if that hurts your feelings.
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Re: Compare boxing today versus boxing 20 to 25 years ago?

Postby Y4NK33 PL4N3T » May 3rd, 2015, 11:06 pm

I think he's referring to the fact Floyd, like Jordan, never loses with the title on the line.

Lechoke does more often than not.
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Re: Compare boxing today versus boxing 20 to 25 years ago?

Postby semperfi4727 » May 4th, 2015, 5:09 am

There is no comparison :sadyes
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