Why are liberal's so ignorant and stupid?

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Re: Why are liberal's so ignorant and stupid?

Postby Y4NK33 PL4N3T » March 18th, 2015, 9:24 pm

CraigKressel wrote:
Y4NK33 PL4N3T wrote:This jackass think Libs 'hate the church' and 'the church 'tries to take care of everyone' :biglol :crazy :facepalm


Liberals do hate the church and most churches do try to help people. What is invalid about that, show me where it is invalid?

Sure there are some churches that do not and the catholic church has its problems but as a whole churches do quite a bit. Quite a few go on missions to Africa and around the world to help starving children and such or runs food banks / shelters? My friends dad for example who is a pastor just left for Africa for like 2 years to run a school as a principal and provide education to children in the Sudan risking his life, tell me about some liberal groups doing that?


Churches try to do one thing way more than anything else, and that's make fucking money hand over fist.

I don't give five fucks what your friends daddy does. Every religion has it groups that do missions, run food banks, run shelters, run soup kitchens, etc so idk why you have such a fucking hard on for the church like they are the only people doing anything. My guess it that Father McBride stroked you off as a kid in the study and you're attached for life.

Church attendees aren't overwhelmingly Repuke or Libtard, it varies by state. You're a retard.
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Re: Why are liberal's so ignorant and stupid?

Postby CraigKressel » March 18th, 2015, 9:38 pm

I have some fairly original ideas on how we could fix the government / society while catering to every group there is. I am sure all liberals would say these are bad ideas because they are so engrained in big government handouts and fear of capitalism.

Education
1. Create an online college that is run by a private company with the government like University of Phoenix and other large public universities could contribute to it.

2. Make it free for everyone and put information about where to get a GED prior to it.

3. Make it so you get free PDF books and if you want a paper copy the government would pay for half of it.

4. Get rid of all grants / federal scholarships and bad student loans for college to spark competition in the higher education industry, reduce waste in public universities and lower tuition rates. Either lower interest loans or no aid at all.

5. The free online college only requires that you do not fail out. If you fail out then you have to pay a small amount, if you fail out again then you have to pay a little more to get back in.

6. In the online college have tons of free continuing education courses and training information so people can teach themselves skills, give a completion letter or certificate with a test at the end of it so they can use this on their resume, similar to lynda.com, cbtnuggets, ed2go.com etc.

7. Use local community colleges / public universities specifically for classes that need to be done in person like public speaking, working with circuit boards or something of that nature.

8. If you have kids and are a single parent you can get a voucher for daycare for 5 hours a day for the periods of time you are taking online courses, you must be enrolled and you must maintain a certain grade point average or the vouchers would be cancelled.

Now no one can complain about not being able to get an education, also this would save billions of dollars in wasted grant money and prevent people from getting into loans that they cannot get out of, it would also increase the skilled labor force.

Healthcare
1. Get rid of Obamacare, go back to how things were but with the following changes.

2. Allow people to get insurance across state lines like car insurance. Car insurance covers way more shit and cost the same or less as health insurance, the reason is competition.

3. Cap the cost of every surgery / hospital stay there is. Cap the cost of all pharmaceuticals at hospitals and anything else that is out of control.

4. Open up urgent care and family care centers in every major city in the country similar to how the VA works or fund existing healthcare centers while those are being built. Patients would get a certain number of visits free if they are below a certain income level.

5. Keep medicaid, medicare how it was before.

6. Rather than taxing people if they do not get insurance, give people that get it a tax BREAK.

I am positive this would be cheaper than Obamacare and would not hurt the middle class near as much as Obamacare.

Taxes / Economy
1. Slowly get rid of income tax and replace with national sales tax

2. Slowly get rid of the IRS how it is and leave a small part of it for auditing businesses with sales tax and for auditing government spending.

3. Stop putting people in prison for evading taxes, fine businesses dramatically or shut them down if the evade taxes, personal people cannot evade taxes because it is all sales tax.

4. Make some things tax free. Houses under 100k, Cars under a certain price or gas mileage and price, Soap, Shampoo, Tooth Paste, toliet paper, Milk, Baby food, Water, Meat, Veggies, Fruit, etc. Make more expensive items taxed higher like cars over 50k, private jets,houses over 300k, etc would get taxed a higher percentage. This would make sure poor people that could not afford the tax could still avoid it for the most part as long as they are not buying big screen TVs, Cigarettes, Beer etc.

5. Slowly make it more and more expensive to outsource and import goods. Increase taxes every year for about 10 years until it is more expensive to use India / China then it is to use the United States for production.

6. Give large companies that produce products 100 percent here or have 100 percent USA employees and Contractors a reduced tax rate.

This would make everyone pay taxes, illegals, homeless, tax evaders. It would save billions annually on court fees, prison fees, IRS agents, CPAs, Tax Software, etc. Rich people would still pay a ton of taxes unless they did not spend a lot, which they still would because they would have more money to spend and they love their luxury show off items. No one could complain about it being unfair and this would allow people to catch up if they were behind, just purchase less shit and only essentials if you fall behind in money.

The economy would be boosted by increased production and jobs would be increased by a more skilled labor force and less dependency on foreign products.

Government Agencies / Government waste, etc

1. Cut the IRS in half after reducing the income tax to 0.

2. Reduce overall government regulations, there are too many taxes, rules, fines, etc.

3. End the war on drugs, make more drugs legal like weed but with fines if you misuse it. Get rid of all prison sentences for drug use unless you are neglecting a child or driving an automobile on drugs.

4. Reduce the size of ATF, Homeland Security, Reduce DEA, Board of Education, FCC and other unnecessarily large agencies.

5. Cut all foreign aid to countries that do not have our interests in mind like Pakistan, Saudia Arabia etc.

6. Move a significant number of troops from overseas to home. We do not need to protect, Japan, France, UK, etc. they can protect themselves wtf do we pay to protect the whole world? If something bad happens then do something.

7. Put some of those soldiers on the boarders and close the boarder better

8. Deport everyone that is caught illegally in this country and quit playing games
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Re: Why are liberal's so ignorant and stupid?

Postby JdPat04 » March 18th, 2015, 9:47 pm

CraigKressel wrote:
Y4NK33 PL4N3T wrote:This jackass think Libs 'hate the church' and 'the church 'tries to take care of everyone' :biglol :crazy :facepalm


Liberals do hate the church and most churches do try to help people. What is invalid about that, show me where it is invalid?

Sure there are some churches that do not and the catholic church has its problems but as a whole churches do quite a bit. Quite a few go on missions to Africa and around the world to help starving children and such or runs food banks / shelters? My friends dad for example who is a pastor just left for Africa for like 2 years to run a school as a principal and provide education to children in the Sudan risking his life, tell me about some liberal groups doing that?



You are correct about church.


Before they started doing welfare programs poverty was already decreasing at a very large rate. They them start the welfare program and take credit for the decrease that was already happening. Then after a few years of welfare the decrease STOPS and then fluctuates around the same level for the next 50 years and stays there up and down up and down.


Who was helping the poor and needy before te welfare program??

Churches, peoples friends and families, private groups, (mostly the right as they are way more generous and more charitable)

When storms happens or homes burn down, any kind of bad things happen to people, illnesses, etc... Who will be the first to help?

Churches... IF the government helps it will take days, weeks. Tons of paperwork. Miles of rep tape.
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Re: Why are liberal's so ignorant and stupid?

Postby JdPat04 » March 18th, 2015, 9:48 pm

No soldiers will go on the border. The guards we have now get in trouble for doing their jobs.
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Re: Why are liberal's so ignorant and stupid?

Postby CraigKressel » March 18th, 2015, 9:51 pm

Y4NK33 PL4N3T wrote:
CraigKressel wrote:
Y4NK33 PL4N3T wrote:This jackass think Libs 'hate the church' and 'the church 'tries to take care of everyone' :biglol :crazy :facepalm


Liberals do hate the church and most churches do try to help people. What is invalid about that, show me where it is invalid?

Sure there are some churches that do not and the catholic church has its problems but as a whole churches do quite a bit. Quite a few go on missions to Africa and around the world to help starving children and such or runs food banks / shelters? My friends dad for example who is a pastor just left for Africa for like 2 years to run a school as a principal and provide education to children in the Sudan risking his life, tell me about some liberal groups doing that?


Churches try to do one thing way more than anything else, and that's make fucking money hand over fist.

I don't give five fucks what your friends daddy does. Every religion has it groups that do missions, run food banks, run shelters, run soup kitchens, etc so idk why you have such a fucking hard on for the church like they are the only people doing anything. My guess it that Father McBride stroked you off as a kid in the study and you're attached for life.

Church attendees aren't overwhelmingly Repuke or Libtard, it varies by state. You're a retard.


There are chruches that do make quite a bit of money the Joel Olsteen's of the world, but most of them do good, they help their local communities and people in need around the world. NO ONE IS FORCING PEOPLE TO GIVE MONEY TO A CHURCH, LIBERALS HOWEVER ARE FORCING YOU TO GIVE YOUR MONEY THROUGH TAXATION!

The government is good at one thing, WASTING OUR HARD EARNED MONEY WITHOUT APPROVAL OF TAKING IT.
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Re: Why are liberal's so ignorant and stupid?

Postby semperfi4727 » March 18th, 2015, 9:52 pm

Why is ck so hurt by what muck said? Why must he resort to insults and personal claims? Oh wait, he's a typical Obama and billery supporter that fails to realize socialism doesn't work. Just ask Germany, or better yet, ukraine
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Re: Why are liberal's so ignorant and stupid?

Postby Y4NK33 PL4N3T » March 18th, 2015, 9:53 pm

semperfi4727 wrote:Why is ck so hurt by what muck said? Why must he resort to insults and personal claims? Oh wait, he's a typical Obama and billery supporter that fails to realize socialism doesn't work. Just ask Germany, or better yet, ukraine

Yeah, fuck CK! :finger
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Re: Why are liberal's so ignorant and stupid?

Postby CraigKressel » March 18th, 2015, 9:57 pm

JdPat04 wrote:No soldiers will go on the border. The guards we have now get in trouble for doing their jobs.


I was saying those were my ideas for fixing this country. I truly believe if we did those things that our country would prosper immensely from it, some of it is liberal ideas to be honest but done the right way, it is giving people a means to make something of themselves rather than just providing for them and letting them get by. It is about enabling our poor and undereducated not just giving them enough to get by on.
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Re: Why are liberal's so ignorant and stupid?

Postby Y4NK33 PL4N3T » March 18th, 2015, 9:57 pm

CraigKressel wrote:
Y4NK33 PL4N3T wrote:
CraigKressel wrote:
Y4NK33 PL4N3T wrote:This jackass think Libs 'hate the church' and 'the church 'tries to take care of everyone' :biglol :crazy :facepalm


Liberals do hate the church and most churches do try to help people. What is invalid about that, show me where it is invalid?

Sure there are some churches that do not and the catholic church has its problems but as a whole churches do quite a bit. Quite a few go on missions to Africa and around the world to help starving children and such or runs food banks / shelters? My friends dad for example who is a pastor just left for Africa for like 2 years to run a school as a principal and provide education to children in the Sudan risking his life, tell me about some liberal groups doing that?


Churches try to do one thing way more than anything else, and that's make fucking money hand over fist.

I don't give five fucks what your friends daddy does. Every religion has it groups that do missions, run food banks, run shelters, run soup kitchens, etc so idk why you have such a fucking hard on for the church like they are the only people doing anything. My guess it that Father McBride stroked you off as a kid in the study and you're attached for life.

Church attendees aren't overwhelmingly Repuke or Libtard, it varies by state. You're a retard.


There are chruches that do make quite a bit of money the Joel Olsteen's of the world, but most of them do good, they help their local communities and people in need around the world. NO ONE IS FORCING PEOPLE TO GIVE MONEY TO A CHURCH, LIBERALS HOWEVER ARE FORCING YOU TO GIVE YOUR MONEY THROUGH TAXATION!

The government is good at one thing, WASTING OUR HARD EARNED MONEY WITHOUT APPROVAL OF TAKING IT.


All churches primary goal is to make a fuckton of money from sheeple whether they're Repukes or Libby's you dolt.

Your gubment officials who are spending your money are ELECTED, MEANING YOU APPROVED THEM TO SPEND THE MONEY HOW THEY SEE FIT. :biglol

You're fucking brain dead, it's no wonder why you're single in a world where anyone can get laid on Tinder or Match.com :ROFL
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Re: Why are liberal's so ignorant and stupid?

Postby semperfi4727 » March 18th, 2015, 9:58 pm

Y4NK33 PL4N3T wrote:
semperfi4727 wrote:Why is ck so hurt by what muck said? Why must he resort to insults and personal claims? Oh wait, he's a typical Obama and billery supporter that fails to realize socialism doesn't work. Just ask Germany, or better yet, ukraine

Yeah, fuck CK! :finger

Not what I'm saying, people across Europe are tired of seeing their hard earned dime go to the government or another government and the people who paid their taxes get nothing out of it. You don't see Greece rioting in the street because they are bailing out another country. You don't see Germans rioting because they love bailing out Europe :justsayin
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Re: Why are liberal's so ignorant and stupid?

Postby ericberry14 » March 18th, 2015, 9:59 pm

CraigKressel wrote:Hey muck you fucking retard here are some questions for you.

1. If you and your liberal friends care about people so much more and want everyone taken care of why don't each one of you take a homeless person in and feed / cloth them instead of asking other people to do it?

2. You could also send money to people with 5 kids that work at McDonalds or do not even have a job because they can't stop fucking for 5 minutes to work.

3. Why do you want to take my money and others people's money and give it to these same fucks? If I got to keep most of my tax money instead of it going to all these bloated government agencies that waste all of it on stupid shit then I would be more likely to take care of other people. If I didn't pay 12k in taxes last year I probably wouldn't hesitate to give people money on the street or donate more to charity but I pretty much cannot afford to give anymore than my taxes because so much is taken from me.

4. Why do I pay for other people to go to college when I did not go to college and taught myself my job skills? If the government quit giving grants and scholarships the cost of tution would drop a shitload because these colleges wouldn't be able to afford blowing shitloads of money on women's volleyball, idiotic research projects, overpaying school presidents, building ridiculously unnecessary expensive ass buildings, etc.

5. If working at Mcdonalds should pay $15 an hour or whatever then what about the skilled entry level jobs that start at 30k? Why do those people who went out and at least educated themselves a little bit deserve the same amount as some dumbass that thinks a McBurger job is meant to support a family.

6. If Hillary / Obama care about the little people so much why don't they give all of their money away or more of it at least? Has Obama ever worked a hard days work in his life, he seems like the softest man I have seen in my life.

muck was being sarcastic playing a liberal. he is not a liberal retard though.
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Re: Why are liberal's so ignorant and stupid?

Postby semperfi4727 » March 18th, 2015, 9:59 pm

Y4NK33 PL4N3T wrote:
CraigKressel wrote:
Y4NK33 PL4N3T wrote:
CraigKressel wrote:
Y4NK33 PL4N3T wrote:This jackass think Libs 'hate the church' and 'the church 'tries to take care of everyone' :biglol :crazy :facepalm


Liberals do hate the church and most churches do try to help people. What is invalid about that, show me where it is invalid?

Sure there are some churches that do not and the catholic church has its problems but as a whole churches do quite a bit. Quite a few go on missions to Africa and around the world to help starving children and such or runs food banks / shelters? My friends dad for example who is a pastor just left for Africa for like 2 years to run a school as a principal and provide education to children in the Sudan risking his life, tell me about some liberal groups doing that?


Churches try to do one thing way more than anything else, and that's make fucking money hand over fist.

I don't give five fucks what your friends daddy does. Every religion has it groups that do missions, run food banks, run shelters, run soup kitchens, etc so idk why you have such a fucking hard on for the church like they are the only people doing anything. My guess it that Father McBride stroked you off as a kid in the study and you're attached for life.

Church attendees aren't overwhelmingly Repuke or Libtard, it varies by state. You're a retard.


There are chruches that do make quite a bit of money the Joel Olsteen's of the world, but most of them do good, they help their local communities and people in need around the world. NO ONE IS FORCING PEOPLE TO GIVE MONEY TO A CHURCH, LIBERALS HOWEVER ARE FORCING YOU TO GIVE YOUR MONEY THROUGH TAXATION!

The government is good at one thing, WASTING OUR HARD EARNED MONEY WITHOUT APPROVAL OF TAKING IT.


All churches primary goal is to make a fuckton of money from sheeple whether they're Repukes or Libby's you dolt.

Your gubment officials who are spending your money are ELECTED, MEANING YOU APPROVED THEM TO SPEND THE MONEY HOW THEY SEE FIT. :biglol

You're fucking brain dead, it's no wonder why you're single in a world where anyone can get laid on Tinder or Match.com :ROFL

Oh, like fundraisers and charities
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Re: Why are liberal's so ignorant and stupid?

Postby Y4NK33 PL4N3T » March 18th, 2015, 10:01 pm

semperfi4727 wrote:
Y4NK33 PL4N3T wrote:
semperfi4727 wrote:Why is ck so hurt by what muck said? Why must he resort to insults and personal claims? Oh wait, he's a typical Obama and billery supporter that fails to realize socialism doesn't work. Just ask Germany, or better yet, ukraine

Yeah, fuck CK! :finger

Not what I'm saying, people across Europe are tired of seeing their hard earned dime go to the government or another government and the people who paid their taxes get nothing out of it. You don't see Greece rioting in the street because they are bailing out another country. You don't see Germans rioting because they love bailing out Europe :justsayin

Greece was recently the 'Poorest country in EU', they aren't bailing out anyone. They're being bailed out. :ROFL
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Re: Why are liberal's so ignorant and stupid?

Postby semperfi4727 » March 18th, 2015, 10:04 pm

Y4NK33 PL4N3T wrote:
semperfi4727 wrote:
Y4NK33 PL4N3T wrote:
semperfi4727 wrote:Why is ck so hurt by what muck said? Why must he resort to insults and personal claims? Oh wait, he's a typical Obama and billery supporter that fails to realize socialism doesn't work. Just ask Germany, or better yet, ukraine

Yeah, fuck CK! :finger

Not what I'm saying, people across Europe are tired of seeing their hard earned dime go to the government or another government and the people who paid their taxes get nothing out of it. You don't see Greece rioting in the street because they are bailing out another country. You don't see Germans rioting because they love bailing out Europe :justsayin

Greece was recently the 'Poorest country in EU', they aren't bailing out anyone. They're being bailed out. :ROFL

You're really dumb, you can't see sarcasm just to make a point. Continue being a typical yankee
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Re: Why are liberal's so ignorant and stupid?

Postby Y4NK33 PL4N3T » March 18th, 2015, 10:28 pm

semperfi4727 wrote:
Y4NK33 PL4N3T wrote:
semperfi4727 wrote:
Y4NK33 PL4N3T wrote:
semperfi4727 wrote:Why is ck so hurt by what muck said? Why must he resort to insults and personal claims? Oh wait, he's a typical Obama and billery supporter that fails to realize socialism doesn't work. Just ask Germany, or better yet, ukraine

Yeah, fuck CK! :finger

Not what I'm saying, people across Europe are tired of seeing their hard earned dime go to the government or another government and the people who paid their taxes get nothing out of it. You don't see Greece rioting in the street because they are bailing out another country. You don't see Germans rioting because they love bailing out Europe :justsayin

Greece was recently the 'Poorest country in EU', they aren't bailing out anyone. They're being bailed out. :ROFL

You're really dumb, you can't see sarcasm just to make a point. Continue being a typical yankee

If your point was that your attempt at sarcasm was piss poor then mission accomplished.
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Re: Why are liberal's so ignorant and stupid?

Postby JdPat04 » March 18th, 2015, 11:10 pm

CraigKressel wrote:
JdPat04 wrote:No soldiers will go on the border. The guards we have now get in trouble for doing their jobs.


I was saying those were my ideas for fixing this country. I truly believe if we did those things that our country would prosper immensely from it, some of it is liberal ideas to be honest but done the right way, it is giving people a means to make something of themselves rather than just providing for them and letting them get by. It is about enabling our poor and undereducated not just giving them enough to get by on.


I know, I was saying that it won't happen with a libtard in the White House


A border guard was testifying for congress yesterday
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Re: Why are liberal's so ignorant and stupid?

Postby semperfi4727 » March 18th, 2015, 11:47 pm

Y4NK33 PL4N3T wrote:
semperfi4727 wrote:
Y4NK33 PL4N3T wrote:
semperfi4727 wrote:
Y4NK33 PL4N3T wrote:
semperfi4727 wrote:Why is ck so hurt by what muck said? Why must he resort to insults and personal claims? Oh wait, he's a typical Obama and billery supporter that fails to realize socialism doesn't work. Just ask Germany, or better yet, ukraine

Yeah, fuck CK! :finger

Not what I'm saying, people across Europe are tired of seeing their hard earned dime go to the government or another government and the people who paid their taxes get nothing out of it. You don't see Greece rioting in the street because they are bailing out another country. You don't see Germans rioting because they love bailing out Europe :justsayin

Greece was recently the 'Poorest country in EU', they aren't bailing out anyone. They're being bailed out. :ROFL

You're really dumb, you can't see sarcasm just to make a point. Continue being a typical yankee

If your point was that your attempt at sarcasm was piss poor then mission accomplished.

If you're too dumb to see common sarcasm, then there is no hope for your kind
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Re: Why are liberal's so ignorant and stupid?

Postby Y4NK33 PL4N3T » March 18th, 2015, 11:52 pm

semperfi4727 wrote:
Y4NK33 PL4N3T wrote:
semperfi4727 wrote:
Y4NK33 PL4N3T wrote:
semperfi4727 wrote:
Y4NK33 PL4N3T wrote:
semperfi4727 wrote:Why is ck so hurt by what muck said? Why must he resort to insults and personal claims? Oh wait, he's a typical Obama and billery supporter that fails to realize socialism doesn't work. Just ask Germany, or better yet, ukraine

Yeah, fuck CK! :finger

Not what I'm saying, people across Europe are tired of seeing their hard earned dime go to the government or another government and the people who paid their taxes get nothing out of it. You don't see Greece rioting in the street because they are bailing out another country. You don't see Germans rioting because they love bailing out Europe :justsayin

Greece was recently the 'Poorest country in EU', they aren't bailing out anyone. They're being bailed out. :ROFL

You're really dumb, you can't see sarcasm just to make a point. Continue being a typical yankee

If your point was that your attempt at sarcasm was piss poor then mission accomplished.

If you're too dumb to see common sarcasm, then there is no hope for your kind

"Common sarcasm"? Making up phrases to try and make a point isn't winning you any awards here. Try again.
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Re: Why are liberal's so ignorant and stupid?

Postby semperfi4727 » March 18th, 2015, 11:59 pm

Nice deflection, maybe one day you'll read something that doesn't have new york in the title
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Re: Why are liberal's so ignorant and stupid?

Postby Y4NK33 PL4N3T » March 19th, 2015, 12:58 am

Deflecting from what, you backpedaling your dumbassery claiming you were trying to be sarcastic now? :lol:

Go runnoft again until the Avs are worth a shit. See you next never. :wave
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